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Re: Position Paper for W3C Workshop on Identity

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:36:56 +0200
Cc: Alexandre Passant <alexandre.passant@deri.org>, WebID XG <public-xg-webid@w3.org>, Jeff Sayre <jeff@sayremedia.com>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>
Message-Id: <62DBBA15-539A-4953-8EE3-1F062428E557@bblfish.net>
To: Dominik Tomaszuk <ddooss@wp.pl>
Ok, the paper is ready for xhtml export. Any further changes can then be edited in the xhtml.

Henry


On 25 Apr 2011, at 22:50, Peter Williams wrote:

> Would be cute to have a rdfa  in there, and an wot pgp signature over it (or the xml variant anyways).
> 
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> On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Alexandre Passant <alexandre.passant@deri.org> wrote:
> 
>> A side note on the paper, if there's time enough for formatting before the deadline, you could embed RDFa in the formatting.
>> See for instance what we've done for a previous submission
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/msnws/papers/trustprivacy.html
>> 
>> Alex.
>> 
>> On 25 Apr 2011, at 09:21, Alexandre Passant wrote:
>> 
>>> References: <1559bb7f8ba15e20e648de2f609bce7e.squirrel@webmail.sayremedia.com> <1507359E-4F66-49EA-B2A9-429FB9DE763D@bblfish.net> <4DAEE879.8080205@openlinksw.com> <989E50EB-B187-4D59-B047-4343BD358A43@deri.org> <DAC9B75B-77D0-4BBE-96EC-3BFC0A5E9935@bblfish.net> <4DAFF837.3020205@w3.org> <76D25FB9-E9C7-4AF4-8950-306A024CE0C9@bblfish.net> <2FA3E257-2682-45C3-A0E8-7F8326DBEC73@deri.org> <53347F84-2D6A-4FDB-9574-96D3CB47518C@bblfish.net> <EE9E001B-E2BC-4F2A-84C7-842F4A912109@deri.org> <2d1cf5f702b6478c332fcad463629dd8.squirrel@webmail.sayremedia.com> <9FE8CBE3-9025-494A-B356-5FCB5F791259@deri.org> <22b0972420a04f7ee033d3e92f462788.squirrel@webmail.sayremedia.com> <84350444-9F91-4903-B799-4E7F72E63D75@bblfish.net> <BANLkTinLLBTaARtae0eeyYJ+OYS+MGn7Rw@m ail.gmail.com> <SNT143-ds19C9ACB7112101459875E992940@phx.gbl> <4DB2FADB.6000409@openlinksw. com> <82caa774c884d2224a2c6c4e39eaa9e9.squirrel@webmail.sayremedia.com> <3898D462-D699-49B7-AC98-F360EAF5C59E@bblfish.net> <118a7e80c78c484851b3583e576cf508.squirrel@webmail.sayremedia.com> <9AE6E32B-F6B2-4399-B5A3-E1930ED81116@bblfish.net>
>>> To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
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>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think we should mention in the advantages how easy it is to create a WebID. I added a comment about it on the doc.
>>> Overall, the paper should also mention that WebID is currently worked on in a W3C XG (listing organisations - that also gives more weight to the proposal) and should end with a proposal. E.g. WeID XG are happy to work closely with browser vendors and Webservices developers, providing opensource toolikts (they should be linked somewhere), etc.
>>> 
>>> A reference to the FSW XG would also be appropriate 
>>> 
>>> Alex. 
>>> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2011, at 00:33, Henry Story wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Agree on all below.
>>>> 
>>>> The version I was editing is here, if it makes it easier to see the diffs:
>>>> 
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YMY_UEIuZzZRvPem5cWg1DuC5FqN2DejOBYPX_51q7s/edit?hl=en&authkey=CI7q4cIC
>>>> 
>>>> Henry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 24 Apr 2011, at 00:29, Jeff Sayre wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2011, at 19:08, Jeff Sayre wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thus, WebID is not just for the Web.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2011, at 1:21 PM, Henry Story wrote:
>>>>>>> Agree, but one should pause at the word "just" here. It makes me wonder:
>>>>>>> what else do we have that is bigger? It's a bit like saying Bill Gates
>>>>> is just
>>>>>>> rich....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Removing 'just' from my sentence would not make any sense. The point is
>>>>> that WebID has a practical role beyond the Web (big W). The Internet is
>>>>> bigger than the Web platform. Non-webby protocols can harness the power of
>>>>> WebID.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyway, when talking to browser vendors and builders, one should presume
>>>>>>> that their
>>>>>>> interest lies focused in the space just encompassed by this technology.
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course. The workshop is targeting browser vendors. Therefore, the
>>>>> browser-based Internet. As I've said several times before in this thread,
>>>>> our position paper thus needs to be Web (big W) focused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I assumed Kingsley was making a larger point and not referring
>>>>> specifically to our position paper. That is the downside to threaded email
>>>>> discussions that tend to snake around, periodically going off topic a bit.
>>>>> It can sometimes be hard to know what topic is being discussed. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, why have we stopped using Google Docs? I assumed that you were just
>>>>> exporting an HTML version for people's reference and that we would
>>>>> continue our edits in Google Docs. It is impossible for anyone else to
>>>>> make corrections to the document in its present format.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would say that at this stage, with the exception of a few edits and
>>>>> proofreading corrections, we are beginning to nitpick with the paper's
>>>>> details. Remember, *all* this paper needs to do is earn us a presentation
>>>>> invite. It does not need to be perfect in all respects with regards to
>>>>> describing WebID. We can go into more detail, be more precise, or paint a
>>>>> bigger picture in our 20-minute talk.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Social Web Architect
>>>> http://bblfish.net/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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> 

Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/
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