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RE: Position Paper for W3C Workshop on Identity

From: peter williams <home_pw@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:22:34 -0700
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds178C95F28176B6A1ACB21792930@phx.gbl>
CC: "'WebID XG'" <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
So let's say that a bar meetup happens, after the oral presentaitons.

In the room, there are the folks advocating directories as the source of the
profiles (because they sell to huge enterprises, run on directories), and
there are you/us - advocating for the public, essentially. The two worlds
could not be further apart  - in motivation and culture.

A mediator comes in, and says: look there is one last position open, #5 -
that which all will do. We  have chatted, and we like the idea of showing
the user's profile in a browser panel, for the current client cert. We like
that the browser itself pulls the profile from a "web" source, rather than
the browser. And, we need two groups to be advocating that pattern, under
the rules. Neither of you were convincing I your own right, but you
basically both identified the same pattern.

You two (directory and foaf) are both saying the same thing, differently.
You meet the 2 endorsers rule, if you act together. One is enterprise
focused, the other public web focused. But, it's the same pattern.

But, you have to work cooperatively, to meet the rule. Otherwise, we assign
#5 to the next  contender (add new ciphersuite, suite C from NSA, since they
have 3 US browser vendors advocating for it...)

Could we imagine allowing the URI to have an ldap URI in the SAN URI SIMPLY
to address the mediators position? Or would we stomp off and leave the
field, unrelenting?

This kind of the thing is a test of reasoned argument, when selling
positions (vs theorems).

-----Original Message-----
From: public-xg-webid-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-webid-request@w3.org]
On Behalf Of Henry Story
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:25 PM
To: jeff@sayremedia.com
Cc: WebID XG
Subject: Re: Position Paper for W3C Workshop on Identity

Ok the latest version of the paper for the W3C Browser workshop has been put
up here:

  http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/04/20/

It should be an easy and clear read, and essentially make the point to the
browser vendors that they need very little effort to make a big difference
and solve a big problem.

Henry

Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/
Received on Wednesday, 20 April 2011 21:23:29 UTC

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