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Re: Authentication workflow draft.

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:58:03 +0200
Cc: peter williams <home_pw@msn.com>, 'Akbar Hossain' <mail@akbarhossain.com>, 'WebID XG' <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
Message-Id: <77CB42B3-EE64-4ADA-8B4D-C45CDF25317B@bblfish.net>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Great Kingsley,

   I look forward to you and Peter getting together and hashing out something initial that holds water here.
In the mean time I will focus a bit on the test suites  here with others to make sure we interoperate on what we already have. 

Henry

On 12 Apr 2011, at 22:40, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> On 4/12/11 4:05 PM, Henry Story wrote:
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>> 
>> <aside topic="rest-vs-soap">
>>  Btw. REST tools are even more widespread that SOAP or xmlrpc tools, and they are even more widely understood.  Amazons REST services was used 85% more in 2003 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/3005
>> And if you ask developers they prefer REST 
>>    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/76595/soap-or-rest
> 
> Be careful, don't make quantum leaps about "developers" and certainly not "developers" and their comprehension of REST-ful client-server programming.
> 
> Peter (as I do sometimes) is explaining in too much detail. He could also simply say: hey! Let's just WebID enable these existing Windows tools by subtle tweaks within .NET Frameworks which drives most things these days .
>> 
>> Here is a very good presentation btw on REST btw 
>> :
>> http://t.co/l1bmeeZ
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>> It's not really worth having arguments on this here. 
>> </aside>
> 
> Does REST really matter if WebID is propagated all over the place by tweaking existing protocols (good, bad, and the downright ugly) and libraries across a plethora of platforms? 
> 
> RDF is confusing, REST is confusing, both are kinda provincial since the rehash old ideas in new context. I remember a time when Web wasn't Client-Server it was Application Server etc.. Then it was about SOAP, then REST etc.. In reality a much ado about nowt bar rephrasing to celebrate subtle context tweaks to old patterns via injection of new terminology etc.. 
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> Let's get WebID out everywhere. No RDF or REST distractions. Just the ability to read and write structured data to Network Addresses subject to ACLs driven by the WebID protocol :-)
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> Regards,
> 
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