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Re: Position Paper for W3C Workshop on Identity

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:10:36 -0400
Message-ID: <4D9B4D0C.90702@openlinksw.com>
To: Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>
CC: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, "jeff@sayremedia.com" <jeff@sayremedia.com>, WebID XG <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
On 4/5/11 12:11 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
> For the w3c meet with the great and the good of the us identity management scene, don't code. They don't care about applications or code. Billion dollar companies like oracle and microsoft have a thousand programmers...to engineer code. They have 100,000 third parties working their wake, making 10 apps a day.
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> Focus on intelligent, infrastructure tweaks, that enable one to get more juice out of the already pretty well loaded battery.
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> We are not selling semantic web. We are selling good old client certs plus good old foaf cards. Both failed at web scale when deployed alone. Both can succeed when deployed to mutual advantage. Together, a webby security model can be preserved (contrasting with the mandatory national id card, with RFID and govt endorsed crypto).
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> With webid, then both traditional web (eg WebDAV) and advanced data web (with semantic models) all benefit. The I'd card can coexist, but has to prove its value (perhaps in the legal space).
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> Of course, if you are making a funding application to a research agency, don't do the above.you will not get funded, there being no research plan.
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> Make sure you are clear in your mind whether this is paper-writing research for delivery of social impact in 10 years time, or a product managers pitch to tweak something already in the market, for delivery in 6 months time.
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> I'd love to just see 1 million foaf card with rsa publickeys, in 6 months time. I could not care less about eliminating facebook, killing cas, defeating Microsoft, or showing php is better than c. To be honest, right now, I could not care less about research into semweb-based social networks. (but you can...)


Amen!!


Kingsley
> On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Henry Story<henry.story@bblfish.net>  wrote:
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>> On 5 Apr 2011, at 17:06, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
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>>>> [snip]
>>> Henry,
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>>> No, but making such a tweak to Open Source edition of Etherpad is fertile ground for #WebID boostrap and developer engagement etc..
>> I added an issue to Clerezza Jira for this. Etherpad is written in Scala and Java. If anyone wants to see how to adapt it feel free. I won't have the time I think to do this myself before june.
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>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-488
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>>> Of course, we can WebID enable any of these tools, but I won't have our resources jump into this realm without co-collaborators. We've done way to much on the solo front over the years re. standards enabling LAMP stack efforts, with next to no return i.e., folks miss the point utterly and just marginalize the effort.
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>>> -- 
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>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kingsley Idehen
>>> President&   CEO
>>> OpenLink Software
>>> Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>> Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
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>> Social Web Architect
>> http://bblfish.net/
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
President&  CEO
OpenLink Software
Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
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