RE: Uncertainty Ontology

All,

I will upload some text and also jpg files so that you will be able to see
them in the browser (I hope). I will also provide some text, as suggested by
Kathy and Vipul. Sorry about the delay, but I have been out of the loop for
a couple of days, but should be able to catch up by tomorrow.

I also need a bit of time to diagest the specific suggestions by Paulo,
Giorgos and Vipul. I would prefer to keep the ontology as small as possible
and make sure that the concepts are well organized. I will try to post
something tomorrow.

Thanks for all the inputs,

==Mitch
 

   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: public-xg-urw3-request@w3.org 
   > [mailto:public-xg-urw3-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of 
   > Kathryn Blackmond Laskey
   > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:41 AM
   > To: Kashyap, Vipul; gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr; Kathryn 
   > Blackmond Laskey; mkokar@ece.neu.edu
   > Cc: public-xg-urw3@w3.org
   > Subject: RE: Uncertainty Ontology
   > 
   > 
   > Mitch,
   > 
   > If you send me an HTML file with the images embedded so 
   > that they display on the page itself, then I will post it 
   > on the XG web page and put a link to it on the wiki.
   > 
   > I agree with Vipul that a text version would be helpful.  
   > A bulleted list with indents for sub-categories would be good.
   > 
   > K
   > 
   > At 10:33 AM -0400 6/15/07, Kashyap, Vipul wrote:
   > >Mitch,
   > >
   > >I was wondering if you could list the various categories 
   > in text on the 
   > >wiki page?
   > >
   > >That will make it easier for all of us.
   > >
   > >Thanks,
   > >
   > >---Vipul
   > >
   > >=======================================
   > >Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D.
   > >Senior Medical Informatician
   > >Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System
   > >Phone: (781)416-9254
   > >Cell: (617)943-7120
   > >http://www.partners.org/cird/AboutUs.asp?cBox=Staff&stAb=vik
   > >
   > >To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead you 
   > need the right 
   > >questions ---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, Wired 6.04.95
   > >>  -----Original Message-----
   > >>  From: public-xg-urw3-request@w3.org 
   > >> [mailto:public-xg-urw3-request@w3.org]
   > >>  On Behalf Of Kashyap, Vipul
   > >>  Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:25 AM
   > >>  To: gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr; Kathryn Blackmond Laskey; 
   > >> mkokar@ece.neu.edu
   > >>  Cc: public-xg-urw3@w3.org
   > >>  Subject: RE: Uncertainty Ontology
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>  I would propose that instead of cluttering people's e-mail, we 
   > >> should add  our  comments directly on the wiki page..
   > >>
   > >>  This will be the best way to exchange ideas. The 
   > biggest advantage 
   > >> being  that if  someone else has already said something 
   > similar, you 
   > >> can do +1 to it...
   > >>
   > >>  My point of disagreement with Mitch was the following:
   > >>
   > >>  I view Bayesian networks, Fuzzy Logic, Dempster 
   > Schaeffer, etc. as  
   > >> representation/reasoning tools on uncertain information.
   > >>  So the proposal was: let's have two classes in the ontology:
   > >>  - Uncertainty
   > >>  - Techniques for dealing with Uncertainty...
   > >>
   > >>  Mitch seemed to suggest that these things categorized 
   > different 
   > >> types of  uncertainty, though in my mind, given a piece 
   > of uncertain 
   > >> information, I  can  use any of the above techniques (possibly 
   > >> inappropriately) to represent  and  reason with it.
   > >>
   > >>  ... Will post this on the wiki soon...
   > >>
   > >>  ---Vipul
   > >>
   > >>  =======================================
   > >>  Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D.
   > >>  Senior Medical Informatician
   > >>  Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System
   > >>  Phone: (781)416-9254
   > >>  Cell: (617)943-7120
   > >>  http://www.partners.org/cird/AboutUs.asp?cBox=Staff&stAb=vik
   > >>
   > >>  To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead 
   > you need the 
   > >> right  questions  ---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, 
   > Wired 6.04.95
   > >>
   > >>  > -----Original Message-----
   > >>  > From: gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr 
   > [mailto:gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr]  
   > >> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:17 AM  > To: Kathryn Blackmond 
   > >> Laskey; Giorgos Stoilos; mkokar@ece.neu.edu;  > 
   > Kashyap, Vipul  > Cc: 
   > >> public-xg-urw3@w3.org  > Subject: Re: Uncertainty 
   > Ontology  >  >  > I 
   > >> know that. That's why I did not send this mail as a 
   > reply to Paulo's  
   > >> > one.
   > >>  >
   > >>  > I just remember some specific discussion, I think it 
   > was Vipul  
   > >> questioning  > about something about the differences on 
   > the types of 
   > >> uncertainties,  > taking  > place during the telecon. I 
   > also remember 
   > >> someone saying: "...discuss  over  > mail with Vipul and then 
   > >> summarize to the group." I wanted to make sure  if  > I 
   >  > lister 
   > >> correctly or there is going to be a public discussion 
   > over mail  > 
   > >> about  > this issue, cause I haven't seen any mail so 
   > far (beware 
   > >> that Paulo's  mail  > was  > *not* about the specific 
   > issue but about 
   > >> the uncertainty ontology in  > general).
   > >>  >
   > >>  > Greetings,
   > >>  > -gstoil
   > >>  >
   > >>  > Kathryn Blackmond Laskey <klaskey@gmu.edu> said:
   > >>  >
   > >>  > > Paulo was referring to Mitch's preliminary draft 
   > ontology of  > 
   > >> > uncertainty, which he posted to the Wiki:
   > >>  > >    
   > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/urw3/wiki/UncertaintyOntology
   > >>  > >
   > >>  > > At 11:05 AM +0300 6/15/07, Giorgos Stoilos wrote:
   > >  > > > >Hi all,
   > >>  > > >
   > >>  > > >Is the discussion about the differences on the 
   > types of  > > 
   > >> >uncertainties, that took place on the telecon, taking 
   > place, or it  
   > >> > > >hasn't started yet? I believe that it would be 
   > very helpful for 
   > >> the  > > >entire group to participate.
   > >>  > > >
   > >>  > > >Best,
   > >>  > > >-gstoil
   > >>  > >
   > >>  >
   > >>  >
   > >>  >
   > >>  > --
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