Re: another relevant bit of ontology

Cory,

Please clarify which link you mean by "this paper"?  Thanks.

John


On May 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Cory Henson wrote:

> The paper seems to be discussing deductive rule-based reasoning with  
> sensor data. While this is definitely useful for certain tasks  
> (i.e., checking constraints and data validity) it may be  
> insufficient for other purposes such as interpretation and  
> explanation of sensor data. For example, the rule on page 5 says  
> that if the temperature is less than zero Celsius then it must be  
> winter.  But, is it winter because it is cold, or is it cold because  
> it is winter? Or is it cold because the sensor is in a freezer?  
> Interpretation of observations seems more like an abductive task,  
> where there are often multiple hypothetical explanations for a set  
> of sensor data. Just a suggestion in case inference over observation  
> data fits into the scope of this project.  For reference please see: http://knoesis.wright.edu/library/resource.php?id=00595
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Oscar Corcho <ocorcho@fi.upm.es>  
> wrote:
> I tend to agree with Amit. Anyway, probably Víctor was not referring
> necessarily to DL reasoning, but also to some RDF inferencing.
>
> Oscar
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-ssn- 
> request@w3.org] En
> nombre de Amit P. Sheth
> Enviado el: martes, 26 de mayo de 2009 14:23
> Para: Victor Manuel Pelaez Martinez
> CC: public-xg-ssn@w3.org
> Asunto: Re: another relevant bit of ontology
>
> I would argue that DL inferencing is not the only or even primary  
> way to
> exploit semantics. We have had lits of debate in the community
> and we generally agree that SW's benefits not only machine processing
> but also, human understandability and use a of data. RDF processing is
> perfectly
> adequate ways to exploit semantics by exploiting relationships
> as first class objects.
> Semantic annotations can improve search, for example,
> or integration, without using inferencing.
> Some ideas are in this paper:
> http://knoesis.wright.edu/library/resource.php?id=00050
>
> Amit
> http://knoesis.org/amit
>
> Victor Manuel Pelaez Martinez wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This is a quite interesting use case, but it’s focused more on the
> > sensor data than in the sensor network itself, so in our opinion it
> > fits only partially in the scope of the group (as the group  
> discussed
> > in one of the teleconferences).
> >
> > We think that the most interesting point is the use of ontology
> > reasoning (in this case using rules) because it goes further than  
> the
> > use cases based on syntactic queries.
> >
> > In our opinion we shouldn't be able to solve use cases using only
> > syntactic queries, because that would mean that those use cases  
> could
> > be solved using other non-semantic technologies.
> >
> > We think that the use cases should show the advantages of using
> > semantic technologies, so some kind of reasoning or inference should
> > be necessary in order to solve them (as it is done in the paper sent
> > by John). Perhaps this could be a good point to discuss within the  
> use
> > case work package.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Víctor M. Peláez
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > *De:* public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org] *En nombre de *John Graybeal
> > *Enviado el:* jueves, 21 de mayo de 2009 0:39
> > *Para:* public-xg-ssn@w3.org
> > *CC:* Bob Morris; Matt Calder; Francesco Peri
> > *Asunto:* another relevant bit of ontology
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Bob Morris and his team at UMass (copied) have a paper in review [1]
> > that seems highly relevant as a demonstration use case. It describes
> > using ontologies to relate types
> >
> > of ecosystem events to properties of the ecosystem and the sensors
> > observing it.
> >
> > I added this reference to the Use Cases page, and also to the
> > References page, but the sensor ontology itself may be of direct
> > interest (I don't have a link to that yet).
> >
> > John
> >
> > [1] http://efg.cs.umb.edu/pubs/SensorDataReasoning.pdf
> >
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> > John Graybeal <mailto:graybeal@mbari.org> -- 831-775-1956
> > Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute
> > Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: http://marinemetadata.org
> >
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> Cory Andrew Henson
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John

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John Graybeal   <mailto:graybeal@mbari.org>  -- 831-775-1956
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute
Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: http://marinemetadata.org