Meeting Minutes July 8th Social Web Incubator Group

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             Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference

08 Jul 2009

   [2]Agenda

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/weekly-agenda.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Zakim error

   Regrets
          Tim_Anglade, Hakan, Cloud

   Chair
          DKA

   Scribe
          Adam Boyet

Contents

     * [4]Topics
     * [5]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 08 July 2009

   <hhalpin> PROPOSED: to approve SWXG WG Weekly -- 8 July 2009 as a
   true record

   <hhalpin> [6]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swxg-minutes.html

      [6] http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swxg-minutes.html

   <mischat> +1

   <jsalvachua> +1

   <hhalpin> RESOLVED: SWXG WG Weekly approved 8 July 2009 as a true
   record

   <petef> Could everybody on the call please mute when not talking

   <hhalpin> PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 15th July

   <jsalvachua> +1

   <AndreaP> +1

   +1

   <hhalpin> danbri -can you scribe?

   <hhalpin> DKA will chair next week.

   dka to chair next week

   <hhalpin> 2. General Organization and Task Forces

   <bblfish> hi

   hhalpin thought would be interesting to look at the social group
   wiki

   <hhalpin>
   [7]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSumma
   ries

      [7] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSummaries

   <hhalpin> hhalpin: thought would be interesting to look at the
   social group wiki

   scribe: to look at summaries of invited guests
   ... to see if someone would volunteer to summarize talk from last
   week

   <hhalpin> volunteer??

   <mischat> i can

   <hhalpin> Mischa, you'd be perfect!

   <mischat> mmm

   <hhalpin> ACTION: Mischa to summarize josh and soren't talk
   [recorded in
   [8]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Summarize josh and soren't talk [on
   Mischa Tuffield - due 2009-07-15].

   <hhalpin> 3. User stories

   hhalpin: to summarize the invited guests in the wiki for future
   references

   <hhalpin> Go for it Mischa!

   mischat: will hopefully complete by next week

   mischat: talked with josh about running terms through plagerism
   software

   <hhalpin> that would be GREAT!!

   <rreck> great idea to track changes on the terms and conditions

   mischat: and put them in version control and see how all the T&Cs
   change over time

   <hhalpin> +1

   <tinkster> sounds like it could be interesting to see the results of
   that.

   hhalpin: great idea, would be interesting to share on the final
   report

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [CONTINUES] Sören to propose addition to the
   template for user stories for conditions [recorded in
   [9]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action02]

   cprey: soren and cprey exchanged emails on conditions of user
   stories
   ... he sent draft and exchanged comments over the weekend

   cprey: working on a final version

   hhalpin: tobey in luck with microblogging document tracking sources
   story

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [DONE] tinkster to document developer stories on
   wiki. [recorded in
   [10]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action04]

   toby: shares link to tracking sources

   <hhalpin> 4. Invited Guest Invitations

   <danbri> tobyink, thanks for
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Trac
   king_Sources !

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Tracking_Sources

   cprey: update on invited guests ... would attempt to illicit input
   from mobile operator ... Sam ??? to come on july 22nd to answer a
   few questions

   <danbri> looks good to me

   <hhalpin> I think July 22nd works for Sam Crichtley

   <cperey> Critchley

   cprey: introduce to his service and mention how he would like to see
   this evolve
   ... from gypsey

   <samcritchley> Yes, that's me

   <samcritchley> :-)

   <hhalpin> hello sam!

   <hhalpin> Your on for the July 22nd.

   <samcritchley> Hi!

   cprey: will change web page to the 22nd

   <hhalpin> Send us any links you want us to read ahead of time.

   <samcritchley> Will do

   dka: reaching out to geo location working group and somebody from
   oslo companies with relation to the location sharing
   ... probably be good for the next call

   <danbri> re geolocation:
   [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pling/2009Jul/0005.ht
   ml ... note the last call doc to review

     [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pling/2009Jul/0005.html

   <mischat> ACTION: Mischa to describe/implement a git repo of terms
   and conditions, and how they change between now and the end of the
   XG. [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Describe/implement a git repo of
   terms and conditions, and how they change between now and the end of
   the XG. [on Mischa Tuffield - due 2009-07-15].

   hhalpin: 15th is open for a speaker

   <hhalpin> ACTION [CONTINUES] : hhalpin to contact eran to talk, also
   about LRDD and XRDS-Simple

   hhalpin: have sent email to Aron about LRDD

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [CONTINUES] hhalpin to contact eran to talk, also
   about LRDD and XRDS-Simple [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action06]

   <cperey> I've updated the schedule to show that Sam will speak on
   July 22 [15]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Schedule

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Schedule

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [CONTINUES] danbri to find someone from Opera to
   talk Widgets [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action07]

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [CONTINUES] danbri and karl to contact Evan of
   identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging and W3C. [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action08]

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [CONTINUES] Renato and DanBri and hhalpin to
   schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action09]

   <hhalpin> ACTION: [CONTINUES] DKA to invite Lars or Eric from
   Geolocation API to W3C Social Web XG for context comm call [recorded
   in [19]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action10]

   danbri: will ping people

   <hhalpin> ack

   <PhilA2> [20]http://www.alpsp.org/ngen_public/article.asp?aid=73515

     [20] http://www.alpsp.org/ngen_public/article.asp?aid=73515

   PhilA: at conference with people talking about mobile web and other
   speakers that talked alot about social networking at a marketing
   tool

   <PhilA2> [21]http://thewayoftheweb.net/

     [21] http://thewayoftheweb.net/

   <mischat> [22]http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/

     [22] http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/

   PhilA: shares page to Dan Thorton, works for radio

   <PhilA2> Ros Lawler
   [23]http://econsultancy.com/blog/2172-random-house-s-ros-lawler-on-w
   idgets-and-web-2-0

     [23] http://econsultancy.com/blog/2172-random-house-s-ros-lawler-on-widgets-and-web-2-0

   PhilA: another speaker that stood out, see shared link
   ... either would be interesting to have as invited speaker with
   regard to well funded agencies are doing with social networking

   <hhalpin> ACTION: PhilA to invite Ros to come to Social Web XG call.
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action12]

   <danbri> see
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuests

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuests

   <cperey>
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Schedule

     [27] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Schedule

   <PhilA2> ACTION: PhilA2 to invite Ros lawler and/or Dan Thornton to
   tallk about marketing through social media [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action15]

   <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilA2

   <hhalpin> 5. Business of Social Networks

   <cperey> DKA

   <cperey> Dan???

   dka: cprey can you help share your thoughts about work to do around
   business side ? .... part of the work from the group needs to inform
   the community about the benefits about the open social web ecosystem
   ... as apposed to the wall garden approach
   ... that was my thinking

   cprey: dka recapped it very well ... wants work from group to have
   impact in a business context

   <bblfish> cprey: is this the type of thing that is needed?
   [29]http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/business_model_for_open_distr
   ibuted

     [29] http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/business_model_for_open_distributed

   cprey: would like to describe some scenarios how a open social web
   could come about and in what ways could it be beneficial to the
   bottom line

   <oshani> not sure if this is really relevant -- but I see some
   interesting business related user stories here :
   [30]http://www.primelife.eu/images/stories/deliverables/h5.1.1-polic
   y_requirements-public.pdf

     [30] http://www.primelife.eu/images/stories/deliverables/h5.1.1-policy_requirements-public.pdf

   cprey: would benefit by hearing more from businesses on their
   concerns ... in what areas do businesses wish to see more
   standardization
   ... communication would be best to go both ways, us to listen to
   them

   dka: mentioned the idea of sharing the location information between
   mobile startups
   ... have somebody speak about how they're extending xmpp but at a
   business level if the ceo's got together and said it would be
   beneficial for them to share location information
   ... its an interesting overlap of both business and technology

   <hhalpin> [31]http://www.socialtimes.com/2009/06/social-data-cloud/

     [31] http://www.socialtimes.com/2009/06/social-data-cloud/

   <Zakim> danbri, you wanted to ask about oslo biz story

   <tinkster> OSLO are a pretty mysterious bunch.

   <DKA> OSLO:
   [32]http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/oslo-aims-to-break-down-mob
   ile-social-network-barriers/

     [32] http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/oslo-aims-to-break-down-mobile-social-network-barriers/

   <danbri> so it's these guys, with xmpp etc? -
   [33]http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/wiki/TechnologyChoices
   [34]http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/

     [33] http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/wiki/TechnologyChoices
     [34] http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/

   hhalpin: one thing that could be missing from the use cases whats
   the best way to do data portability from a business perspective

   <samcritchley> I think Aka-aki and Nulaz are in OSLO

   <cperey> yes, I can confirm that

   <samcritchley> couple of others too

   <cperey>
   [35]http://download.aka-aki.com/press/mitteilungen/EN/02232009_oslo_
   alliance.pdf

     [35] http://download.aka-aki.com/press/mitteilungen/EN/02232009_oslo_alliance.pdf

   hhalpin: to keep our work grounded to the businesses

   <hhalpin> [36]http://www.socialtimes.com/2009/06/social-data-cloud/

     [36] http://www.socialtimes.com/2009/06/social-data-cloud/

   hhalpin: there some mentions of the big social webs are sharing
   information

   bblfish: think its good to look at little companies as well as the
   big companies ... activity can happen a lot faster typically at the
   smaller companies

   <DKA> +1 to the importance of the "little companies."

   <danbri> re opensocial and w3c, see recent Wookie/Widgets proposal
   in the Apache Foundation -
   [37]http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/20090
   7.mbox/browser

     [37] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200907.mbox/browser

   <mattroweshow> +1 for the longtail

   <danbri> ACTION: danbri circulate wookie proposal to the xg
   [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action16]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Circulate wookie proposal to the xg
   [on Dan Brickley - due 2009-07-15].

   hhalpin: from a w3c perspective want to make it easier to share data

   <hhalpin>
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Portability_Arch
   itecture_TF

     [39] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Portability_Architecture_TF

   <hhalpin> 7. # Portability Task Force

   <hhalpin> 7. Portability Task Force

   <hhalpin>
   [40]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Portability_Arch
   itecture_TF

     [40] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Portability_Architecture_TF

   ??: ought to be clear if charter says not about creating new
   technology

   <hhalpin> Here's this sentence from the charter: "Our goal is to
   provide a forum through which collaborations relating to social web
   standards can be formed, and through which the results of practical
   standards-oriented collaborations can be reported and discussed."

   jsalvachua: think we should not invent new protocols, was my idea
   from the start

   <petef> Adam jsalvachua == petef

   jsalvachua: w3c isn't necessarily about implementing new protocols

   hhalpin: charter is written in that way to share that the group
   wasn't necessarily about creating something new

   <tinkster> The task force could always identify areas where it
   thinks new protocols are needed, and then people from the TF could
   work outside the TF and XG to create protocols that fit into those
   gaps.

   <hhalpin> We can't prevent people from informally making things :)

   <hhalpin> In fact, we want to informally for people to get
   together!!!

   danbri: if members of the group want to get together and invent
   things thats fine but be clear of what your doing and be transparent
   regarding patent policy

   jsalvachua: how can we start? with a statement of whats out there
   right now?
   ... to talk about new combinations

   petef: thats sounds good

   jsalvachua: ok, petef and I should start talking about this after
   summer when people are more available

   hhalpin: agree with overall sense of things
   ... but would like more detail ... would be great if this group was
   able to generate excitement about making portability and a practical
   plan to approach portability

   <hhalpin> danbri - what's FOAF's role in this?

   jsalvachua: would like to have some sort of proof of concept of the
   ideas they are developing

   <mischat> yes

   <mattroweshow> +1

   <hhalpin> I would also like to see mappings between OpenSocial, XFN,
   vCard, and PortableContacts to FOAF.

   <hhalpin> With XML-based formats, done via GRDDL.

   <cperey> I don't want to draw away from the useful discussion on
   data portability, but can we have a section in this Task Force which
   explains what might be business benefits of data portability?

   danbri: have something that guides people with OpenSocial, FOAF etc

   <danbri> aside -
   [41]http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/interview_with_tim_berners-
   lee_part_1.php

     [41] http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/interview_with_tim_berners-lee_part_1.php

   <hhalpin> Might need Python to sort of move contacts in various
   formats.

   <AlexPassant> what about mattroweshow work on mappings for social
   vocabularies ?

   <jsalvachua> i now more a ruby guy :)

   <hhalpin> I'm still in the dark ages of python or perl!

   cprey: would like to learn what the business benefits to the open
   data portability
   ... maybe charging people when importing / exporting data

   <danbri> hmm
   [42]http://wiki.dataportability.org/display/dpmain/Business+Case
   looks a bit work-in-progress

     [42] http://wiki.dataportability.org/display/dpmain/Business+Case

   <tinkster> Business case: if you enable import of contacts from
   other sites, then it lowers the barrier to entry for new people
   signing up at your site, hence get more users, hence get more
   advertising revenue.

   hhalpin: one case might be to have your smaller social site wanting
   to market about kite flying and them using information from Facebook
   .. have an open format for exchanging that data

   <petef> and if you allow export of data you encourage users to try
   your service without fear of lockin or wasted effort

   <cperey> Thanks for the link DanBri!! very confirming

   <danbri> biz case of being able to accept open data formats is
   fairly no-brainer; biz case of unlocking user data is tougher ...

   <cperey> of my suspicions

   <hhalpin> It would be nice if these use-cases found their way into
   the use-case stories on the wiki - anyone up for that?

   bblfish: if social networks want to start selling services to
   companies, the companies themselves need to be able to control their
   data
   ... and link to other sites that control their data

   <cperey> there are about 100+ companies who are already in teh
   business of business social networks

   <danbri>
   [43]http://eliasbizannes.com/blog/2009/04/data-portability-and-media
   -explaining-the-business-case/

     [43] http://eliasbizannes.com/blog/2009/04/data-portability-and-media-explaining-the-business-case/

   <cperey> they are not interested in companies being able to export
   their data/leave

   <bblfish> so my point was summarised here:
   [44]http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/business_model_for_open_distr
   ibuted

     [44] http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/business_model_for_open_distributed

   <cperey> federated directories?

   <hhalpin> adam: we've been talking mostly about use-cases involving
   marketing

   <hhalpin> adam: but how about enterprise management

   <hhalpin> adam: when we want to have our corporate social network
   reach out to others on another corporate social network

   <hhalpin> adam: when we have some agreement

   <cperey> do not have documented case (user story) covering how
   enterprises can benefit from data portability

   <hhalpin> adam: but we have to respect privacy and security of this
   data.

   <cperey> he's our scribe today!

   <hhalpin> DKA: really likes adam's story

   <jsalvachua> i have a real use case on this that we may have to
   implement, i will try to write it.

   <hhalpin> Boeing's internal stuff is really neat!

   <danbri> yep

   <bblfish> cool

   <cperey> does Sun have similar story/use case?

   <hhalpin> ACTION: adam to write up the boeing use case for
   enterprise social networks [recorded in
   [45]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action17]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Write up the boeing use case for
   enterprise social networks [on Adam Boyet - due 2009-07-15].

   <bblfish> yes, sun has similar use cases

   <cperey> emphasize CROSS enterprise

   <hhalpin> ACTION: hhalpin to write up the social network data
   exchange story [recorded in
   [46]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action18]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Write up the social network data
   exchange story [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-07-15].

   jsalvachua: have a story for two companies to collaborate
   ... will try to expand on the use case

   <bblfish> well it's not just cross enterprise, there is also
   enterprise-individual, enterprise-government, enterprise-university,
   inter university, and all possible combinations :-)

   <hhalpin> ACTION: jsalvachua to write up business use-case with the
   company he's been working with. [recorded in
   [47]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action19]

   <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - jsalvachua

   <danbri> ack me?

   <Zakim> danbri, you wanted to discuss "code visits data vs data
   visits code" opensocial pitch

   danbri: wants to talk about distinction google made when rolling out
   OpenSocial

   <hhalpin> tinkster - want to write up the marketing use-case for the
   use-case document?

   <tinkster> hhalpin: as in this? "Business case: if you enable import
   of contacts from other sites, then it lowers the barrier to entry
   for new people signing up at your site, hence get more users, hence
   get more advertising revenue."

   danbri: prior to those apis, a lot of people thought about letting
   the data go .... google said what about the data staying where it is
   such that a widget stays where the data is and runs in a controlled
   environment

   <hhalpin> Yes, just add that to the use-case story wiki

   danbri: from businesses perspective, its not just about freeing the
   data or keeping the data but a little bit of both

   <tinkster> ACTION Toby to add user story along lines of... if you
   enable import of contacts from other sites, then it lowers the
   barrier to entry for new people signing up at your site, hence get
   more users, hence get more advertising revenue.

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-56 - Add user story along lines of... if
   you enable import of contacts from other sites, then it lowers the
   barrier to entry for new people signing up at your site, hence get
   more users, hence get more advertising revenue. [on Toby Inkster -
   due 2009-07-15].

   <cperey> that's the question: why would you ever want to free up
   this data?

   <petef> clap, clap

   <mischat> +1

   dandbri: there are 2 widget platforms: w3c widget, other is
   OpenSocial
   ... there is a new one in the Apache space called wookie trying to
   bridge the two

   <mischat> echo ....

   <hhalpin> ACTION: danbri to write up widget business tory [recorded
   in [48]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action20]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-57 - Write up widget business tory [on Dan
   Brickley - due 2009-07-15].

   <danbri> see
   [49]http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/20090
   7.mbox/browser for wookie proposal - w3c widgets meet opensoccial
   widgets

     [49] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200907.mbox/browser

   hhalpin: any other talk about portability

   <danbri> re widgets and biz, maybe i can mention -
   [50]http://www.slideshare.net/danbri/introducing-joost-widgets-2007-
   talk-presentation

     [50] http://www.slideshare.net/danbri/introducing-joost-widgets-2007-talk-presentation

   mischat: question about people contacting somebody at facebook
   regarding privacy

   <cperey> Chris Kelly, Chief Privacy officer

   mischat: might be able to poke a contact there if have more
   information about what we would like to ask of him
   ... to have more context when contacting him

   <danbri> maybe an email Q&A is best for him, initially?

   <cperey> that's what I would like (suggested)

   <cperey> agreed

   <mattroweshow> +1

   <hhalpin> My feeling is that we want to have him to talk to us at
   some point, but we can probably only do that once so we need to have
   our questions ready :)

   danbri: maybe a Q&A interaction as a good first step

   hhalpin: any updates on the facebook privacy

   cprey: don't have much more detail other then articles shared
   ... some people on both sides of the privacy fence

   <mischat> i dont know anything about it,

   <mattroweshow>
   [51]http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_day_facebook_changed_me
   ssages_to_become_pulic.php

     [51] http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_day_facebook_changed_messages_to_become_pulic.php

   cprey: don't know enough about the policy part, leave that to the
   experts

   dka: received some mix reaction when shared it internally

   <cperey>
   [52]http://www.scribd.com/doc/17010802/Facebook-Privacy-Presentation
   -July-1-2009

     [52] http://www.scribd.com/doc/17010802/Facebook-Privacy-Presentation-July-1-2009

   <caribou> it's about audience segregation, mainly

   <cperey>
   [53]http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-looming-facebook-privac
   y-fiasco/

     [53] http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-looming-facebook-privacy-fiasco/

   <PhilA2> +1 to DKA

   dka: you do get much segregation even within the same country

   <danbri> q*

   <danbri> ( many privacy issues are highly counterintuitive -
   teenagers don't know about probability and de-anonymising data )

   dka: in terms of what to ask privacy officer of facebook, bouncing
   some ideas from what came out of the privacy jungle discussion

   <cperey> also some ideas from the C Petersen paper

   dka: why are social networks de-empasizing privacy

   <tinkster> Privacy/Policy Commons would really help here. Creative
   Commons makes licensing really easy to understand: you can do this,
   you can't do that. We need the same easy at-a-glance system for
   privacy.

   <melvster>
   [54]http://etc.cpeterson.org/documents/2009/savingface.pdf

     [54] http://etc.cpeterson.org/documents/2009/savingface.pdf

   <cperey> [55]http://etc.cpeterson.org/documents/2009/savingface.pdf

     [55] http://etc.cpeterson.org/documents/2009/savingface.pdf

   <karl>
   [56]http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/10/22/putting_pri
   vacy.html

     [56] http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/10/22/putting_privacy.html

   <danbri> [57]http://www.fcw.com/Articles/2009/02/19/GSA-survey.aspx
   looks relevant but i don't know those folks

     [57] http://www.fcw.com/Articles/2009/02/19/GSA-survey.aspx

   <mischat> +1

   <PhilA2> I spoke to one very influential person in the online safety
   world recently who felt that it would be human rights people, not
   children's advocates, who would kill LBS

   <karl> [58]http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/privacy/

     [58] http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/privacy/

   hhalpin: do the portabilty group want to have a task force meeting
   regarding getting some of this together

   jsalvachua: probably start later when the points are more clear

   <hhalpin> Meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: adam to write up the boeing use case for enterprise
   social networks [recorded in
   [59]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action17]
   [NEW] ACTION: danbri circulate wookie proposal to the xg [recorded
   in [60]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action16]
   [NEW] ACTION: danbri to write up widget business tory [recorded in
   [61]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action20]
   [NEW] ACTION: hhalpin to write up the social network data exchange
   story [recorded in
   [62]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action18]
   [NEW] ACTION: jsalvachua to write up business use-case with the
   company he's been working with. [recorded in
   [63]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action19]
   [NEW] ACTION: Mischa to describe/implement a git repo of terms and
   conditions, and how they change between now and the end of the XG.
   [recorded in
   [64]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action05]
   [NEW] ACTION: Mischa to summarize josh and soren't talk [recorded in
   [65]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: PhilA2 to invite Ros lawler and/or Dan Thornton to
   tallk about marketing through social media [recorded in
   [66]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action15]

   [PENDING] ACTION: danbri and karl to contact Evan of identi.ca over
   OpenMicroblogging and W3C. [recorded in
   [67]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action08]
   [PENDING] ACTION: danbri to find someone from Opera to talk Widgets
   [recorded in
   [68]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action07]
   [PENDING] ACTION: DKA to invite Lars or Eric from Geolocation API to
   W3C Social Web XG for context comm call [recorded in
   [69]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action10]
   [PENDING] ACTION: hhalpin to contact eran to talk, also about LRDD
   and XRDS-Simple [recorded in
   [70]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action06]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Renato and DanBri and hhalpin to schedule
   DataPortability.org/XMPP [recorded in
   [71]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Sören to propose addition to the template for user
   stories for conditions [recorded in
   [72]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING] ACTION: tinkster to document developer stories on wiki.
   [recorded in
   [73]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action03]

   [DONE] ACTION: tinkster to document developer stories on wiki.
   [recorded in
   [74]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html#action04]

   [End of minutes]

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