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<AshokMalhotra>Approval of minutes from June 20 telcon
no objections, last weeks minutes approved
No phone call next week, 4th of July
Also, No phone call the 18th of July
Offer from Wolfgang to host Oct 30, 31 (last day of Conf. and day after)
Ashok will send out email to see if people can attend
Ashok: Please add detail to deliverables, particularly recommendation of working group
Paul: Talk about RDFS RDB vocabulary, sent out wiki link
wiki is at: http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/RdfsRdbVocabulary
Orri: Is this vocab. for inserts, i.e. is it one to one?
Paul: This is a static definition, sql is more intended for dynamic--data definition--which is better for manipulation.
<AshokMalhotra> Orri: This would be a simple starting point for mapping SQL DDL to RDF
Side topic: "Direct ontology" is idea of a direct mapping from relational to ontology.
Paul: Good to have standard
ontology for relational. Might be used for variety of
purposes.
... Rule based transformation can be applied once data is in
RDF. This mapping is largely concerned with DDL to
ontology.
Ashok: Is this a complete representation of SQL DDL?
Paul: Potentially. But much of
DDL is for care of the database which is not important for
representing data in RDF.
... Examples: Constraints, Uniqueness
Orri: Uniqueness is important
q: How similar is this to relational.owl?
<jsequeda> http://www.dbs.cs.uni-duesseldorf.de/RDF/
Ashok: SQL allows chars xml doesn't allow, so column name sometimes can't be directly translated
Paul: If you use this kind of vocab. you might be able to eliminate a lot of sparql to SQL rewriting.
Orri: This is a step along the way to mapping, done some work along these lines.
Next call July 11, Juan Sequeda to present
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