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<Ashok> scribenick: Ashok
Hello ... we are early ... shows people are enthusiastic about this work!
Which is wonderful!
<mhausenblas> scribenick AxelPolleres
<AxelPolleres> scribe: Axel Polleres
<AxelPolleres> scribenick: AxelPolleres
Soeren Auer: (introducing himself, talking about triplify, see respective mails on the list)
<Ashok> + Catherine Dolbear
Catherine: introducing herself.
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
Catherine: trying to integrate legacy databases. Large use case. problems with matching column names directly to properties.
<Ashok> + Soren Auer
<Ashok> + Daniel Engovatov
Kingsley: Orri not on the call.
<Ashok> + Ahmed Ezzat
<iv_an_ru> Orri's phone is busy so maybe he is trying to connect like me
Everybody should put an introduction to the mailing list.
Enrico: introducing himself, leading DL/SW research group in Bolzano.
Could people please use nicknames which identify their real names?
Michael Hausenblas: (introducing himself)
scribe: Joanneum Research Austria.
Kingsley Kidehen: (introducing their work - virtuoso, openlink)
Ashok: Doug not here.
... (introducing himself) rather from the RDBMS world thant RDF world,
working at oracle.
... Jim Melton not here
Ivan&Orrie: both OpenLink, just joined.
<kidehen> AxelPolleres: Kingsley +1 617 273 0900
Chimezie Ogbuji not here.
David Orchard: introducing himself.
members list , btw, available here: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42232
Axel: (introducing himself) interested in SPARQL, dynamic binding of legacy DBs, also XML data (combinations of XQuery and SPARQL)
Satya Sahoo: (introducing himself) mentions a recent paper as well (please post details in introduction)
Chris Pierce, Vassilis Tzouvaras not here.
<mhausenblas> Michael: As I have to leave soon, my 2 cent:
We'd prefer a F2F meeting at the ISCW08
Orri: very much a DB engine guy, publishing information about virtuoso soon. DB background optimizing SQL, SPARQL, etc.
<mhausenblas> ... and we should soon start with a report on the current state of the art (which I vonlunteer to edit)
Ashok: this time is difficult for some
callers.
... earlier not good for people from west coast.
... my own difficulty, I can do pretty much only on fridays.
... earlier possible, but we have to ask others.
... 7:00AM westcoast, 4:00PM europe on fridays?
difficult for some people on the west coast.
<iv_an_ru> For me, there's no difference between 21:00 or 22:00 Novosibirsk time :)
scribe: 8:00AM west coast possible?
Michael: I am off, feel free to assign actions to me
Ashok: RESOLVED: Weekly call on Fridays, 8:00AM Pacific = 4:00PM GMT =
5:00CET.
... duration?
... let's schedule for 60min, I will still reserve a 90min slot, let's see
how it goes.
RESOLUTION: Weekly call on Fridays, 8:00AM Pacific = 4:00PM GMT = 5:00CET, for 60 minutes
Ashok: rules of XG require us to do first f2f
soon!
... any thoughts, volunteers to host?
... when/where are the preferences?
... duration? (I strongly recommend at least 2 full days.)
... east coast seems to be sort of half way.
... host needed.
... requirements: conference room, coffee, that's about it. not a big
burden.
... please use the mailing list to post suggestions?
Ahmed: I am not so familiar with the processes.
Ashok: please check the mails pointing to the
mailing lists.
... we have two mailinglists.
... member-xg-rdb2rdf@w3.org and public-xg-rdb2rdf@w3.org
<scribe> ACTION: Ashok to send out details about mailinglists subscription. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]
Ashok: Shall we use the public mailing list for everything?
Axel: other groups also have a "comments" mailinglist for external comments.
Ashok: I will find out.
PROPOSED: XG will discuss all technical work on the public list, all business on the members list.
no objections.
RESOLUTION: XG will discuss all technical work on the public list, all XG business on the members list.
Ashok: Topic: What is it what the XG would like to accomplish?
Ashok: XG is
not to define standards.
... we can propose that mappings can do in some way, but only then we can
start a working group... if the W3C team thinks that is a useful thing.
... I'd like to solicit proposals on that.
... there was a comment already from somebody to do a literature survey.
Soeren: That was a student of mine (Soeren
please paste link to mail, name)
... maybe it is 2 or three pages.
Ahmed: please all to send URLs or citations of what you do to the list.
Kingsley: always add URLs to the subject matter, when sending mails.
Satya: I have already put some things in my earlier mails.
Kingsley: We should use the esw wiki, there is an RDB2RDF section there already.
Ashok: pls post the URL!
Ahmed: Some intro initially, so that we are all on the same level would be good.
Axel: why use esw wiki? or shall we have our own?
Kingsley: link density is immense on esw.
<kidehen> http://esw.w3.org/topic/RdfAndSql
Kingsley: we can also use it for the WG drafts, experience on that in SWEO.
Ashok:Let's use this week to gather all tools
and entry points.
... we all have very different backgrounds.
... might make sense if next week one person presents a solution.
... what do you think?
<kidehen> SWEO sample: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG?highlight=%28sweo%29
<kidehen> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG
Ahmed: If any of us can go over the material collection in advance, then we should go to start the discussion.
<iv_an_ru> esw wiki is good sandbox to play.
Ashok: Because we have a fairly large number of
proposals here, we should present one approach per phone call around
15min.
... who is gonna do it next week?
Satya: I can do it.
Ashok: send a pointer beforehand on the mailinglist, then we will give you 15min.
<scribe> ACTION: Satya to prepare a presetnation of his approach next time. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]
Satya: new to W3C. Please send out links to how to connect to IRC, etc.
<scribe> ACTION: ??? to send out indformation on IRC and working group practices. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action03]
<Ashok> ACTION: Dave to send out URL for W3C CGI IRC Client [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action04]
We have several unidentified people.
David: there is some issues on which names to
use for actions, etc. and how to assign names to IRC-names.
... you can tell Zakim, who on the chat is who in the phone.
... etc.
Ashok: summarize:
... next phone call same time next week.
... I will at some time propose schedule for f2f.
... presentation next time by satya.
... propose to adjourn.
I haved pasted both addresses of the mailing lists above.
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