Re: permanence of mendeley's urls

Hi all,
We haven't discussed this in the meeting at the end, but I'd like to know if
we can manage the current Mendeley's tags with BibBase. I find the tags very
useful, and it would be a shame to lose them if we change the tool.
Best,
Daniel

2010/9/3 Yolanda Gil <gil@isi.edu>

> Paolo:
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> Sounds good.  BibBase just won honorable mention in the Open Track of the
> Linked Data Triplification Challenge :)  So we would be really using
> Semantic Web technology then!
>
> Yolanda
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> On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Paolo Missier wrote:
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>  Simon,
>>  I completely agree that having non-unique references to papers in the
>> Mendeley corpus wont' help anyone. I think DOIs should be used as the
>> authoritative reference whenever possible, and "any" link to the Mendeley
>> entry for the paper should  be added as a convenience to provide quick
>> access to the PDF, if that's associated with the entry, and to a reference.
>>  But if this is to be used by authors who use the references in their
>> papers, then I think a bibtex entry would be important -- and that doesn't
>> seem to be available.
>>
>> A while ago Yolanda proposed to use BibBase (http://www.bibbase.org/) as
>> a way to publish our collection as a whole on a Web site, and I think it is
>> an excellent idea as it can be done using the bibtex file that Mendeley
>> generates behind the scenes, exposing all its entries for each paper (I have
>> happily used to publish my own publications)
>>  maybe something we can briefly touch upon in the call?
>>
>> Cheers, -Paolo
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>> On 03/09/2010 11:42, Simon Miles wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've been working on the citation links for the state of the art
>>> discussed last week, and have a few comments about linking to Mendeley
>>> from the Wiki, as it may affect how we cite in any report we put on
>>> the Wiki.
>>>
>>> We said in the telecon that the reason for linking to the articles in
>>> Mendeley (rather than DOI, for example) was to allow people to know
>>> about and use our Mendeley collection.  However, if you click on the
>>> Mendeley paper links, the pages you reach don't have any mention of
>>> our collection, so I'm afraid this won't work.  For example, try
>>> clicking on the links in the News Aggregator state of the art - a
>>> Mendeley page on the paper is reached, but no mention that the paper
>>> is in our collection.
>>>
>>> Also, there are multiple URLs per paper, depending on how you find the
>>> article: you get one if you find it through browsing our collection,
>>> another if you find it through browsing Mendeley's own categorisation,
>>> and a third if you search on the paper title, with apparently no way
>>> to translate one to another.  I believe the third kind is used in the
>>> News Aggregator state of the art, which is fine except that, as Daniel
>>> said, not all articles in our collection are found on searching, so I
>>> can't use it consistently for my scenario's state of the art.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm just missing something in my use of Mendeley, but I suggest
>>> that linking to the papers on Mendeley from the Wiki may be too much
>>> trouble for too little gain.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Simon
>>>
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