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Re: permanence of mendeley's urls

From: Yolanda Gil <gil@isi.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 07:36:35 -0700
Cc: Simon Miles <drsimonmiles@gmail.com>, public-xg-prov@w3.org
Message-Id: <6D7F1AA8-E7F4-4175-A4BB-0DB9B66F4CF3@isi.edu>
To: pmissier@acm.org

Sounds good.  BibBase just won honorable mention in the Open Track of  
the Linked Data Triplification Challenge :)  So we would be really  
using Semantic Web technology then!


On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Paolo Missier wrote:

> Simon,
>  I completely agree that having non-unique references to papers in  
> the Mendeley corpus wont' help anyone. I think DOIs should be used  
> as the authoritative reference whenever possible, and "any" link to  
> the Mendeley entry for the paper should  be added as a convenience  
> to provide quick access to the PDF, if that's associated with the  
> entry, and to a reference.  But if this is to be used by authors who  
> use the references in their papers, then I think a bibtex entry  
> would be important -- and that doesn't seem to be available.
> A while ago Yolanda proposed to use BibBase (http:// 
> www.bibbase.org/) as a way to publish our collection as a whole on a  
> Web site, and I think it is an excellent idea as it can be done  
> using the bibtex file that Mendeley generates behind the scenes,  
> exposing all its entries for each paper (I have happily used to  
> publish my own publications)
>  maybe something we can briefly touch upon in the call?
> Cheers, -Paolo
> On 03/09/2010 11:42, Simon Miles wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I've been working on the citation links for the state of the art
>> discussed last week, and have a few comments about linking to  
>> Mendeley
>> from the Wiki, as it may affect how we cite in any report we put on
>> the Wiki.
>> We said in the telecon that the reason for linking to the articles in
>> Mendeley (rather than DOI, for example) was to allow people to know
>> about and use our Mendeley collection.  However, if you click on the
>> Mendeley paper links, the pages you reach don't have any mention of
>> our collection, so I'm afraid this won't work.  For example, try
>> clicking on the links in the News Aggregator state of the art - a
>> Mendeley page on the paper is reached, but no mention that the paper
>> is in our collection.
>> Also, there are multiple URLs per paper, depending on how you find  
>> the
>> article: you get one if you find it through browsing our collection,
>> another if you find it through browsing Mendeley's own  
>> categorisation,
>> and a third if you search on the paper title, with apparently no way
>> to translate one to another.  I believe the third kind is used in the
>> News Aggregator state of the art, which is fine except that, as  
>> Daniel
>> said, not all articles in our collection are found on searching, so I
>> can't use it consistently for my scenario's state of the art.
>> Maybe I'm just missing something in my use of Mendeley, but I suggest
>> that linking to the papers on Mendeley from the Wiki may be too much
>> trouble for too little gain.
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
Received on Friday, 3 September 2010 14:37:37 UTC

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