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Re: mendelay + official xg tag?

From: Simon Miles <drsimonmiles@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:21:57 +0000
Message-ID: <e6bad0ad0911190221k34836a4cp31113e8fb1667229@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paolo Missier <pmissier@cs.man.ac.uk>
Cc: public-xg-prov@w3.org
Hi Paolo,

I see.  I had assumed that a shared collection was writable only by
members but optionally readable by everyone as with other collections.
 Is there no option for you to make the shared collection public in
Edit Settings in Mendeley Desktop?  There is not for me, but I don't
know if that's coz I'm not the collection's creator.

I also think a group account as you describe sounds fine.

Alternatively, we could describe what we are trying to do to Mendeley
and see if they have an idea of the best way to do it.

Thanks,
Simon

2009/11/19 Paolo Missier <pmissier@cs.man.ac.uk>:
> Hi Simon
>
> the concept of "shared collection" in Mendeley seems to defeat the whole
> purpose of making it open to the world, as the collection appears to be
> visible to members only. Please correct if I'm wrong (I created one but
> could not
>
> So I would just create a new prov-xg account and give the password to
> M&R (Mature and Responsible :-)) volunteer curators. The resulting
> collection would of course be public.
>
> Comments?
>
> --Paolo
>
>
>
>> Paolo, all,
>>
>> I had a chat with Jan from Mendeley following his presentation.  To
>> answer your points:
>>
>> Collaboration on bibliographies with over 10 people is (secretly)
>> supported, but we have to explicitly request it.  I don't know how big
>> this incubator group is, but I suggested 40 people and they seemed to
>> think that was no problem.  If interested, we should email their
>> support people.
>>
>> Other collaboration tools and global tag search are still under
>> development.  It seems that much of their focus is on data mining and
>> they want to improve the quality of automatically extracted data
>> before making global searches available.
>>
>> I also talked to them about provenance.  They only keep very basic
>> attribution data (which user uploaded a reference and when), but are
>> interested in other cases.  In particular, as they analyse PDF
>> documents, they were interested in provenance of quotations or other
>> information which link documents.  They are focused on building up
>> their user base and improving existing metadata extraction at the
>> moment, so I don't think they'll be able to give much time to
>> providing us with use cases in the next few months, but might be worth
>> exploring later.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>>
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