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Re: mendelay + official xg tag?

From: Bertram Ludaescher <ludaesch@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:32:12 -0800
Message-ID: <657a810a0911120532g4954ec6aja14b95b68dda109a@mail.gmail.com>
To: Simon Miles <drsimonmiles@googlemail.com>
Cc: public-xg-prov@w3.org
In my group we've been using Bibsonomy with good success:
http://www.bibsonomy.org/

I like the flexible export formats, including bibtex, various forms of HTML,
Jason etc.
Comes also with all of DBLP "pre-loaded", has group support, Jabref support
etc.

What are the criteria by which we should decide on a system?

Bertram


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Simon Miles <drsimonmiles@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Paolo, Paul, all,
>
> >From a brief use, I also like Mendeley and agree the group tag is a good
> idea.
>
> Jan Reichelt from Mendeley is coincidentally coming to King's College
> this coming Monday to give a seminar on it, and I'm happy to talk to
> him about any issues the group has (assuming he doesn't have to run
> off immediately afterwards).  And if anyone who'll be in London wants
> to attend the seminar, let me know and I can pass on the details.
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
> 2009/11/12 Paolo Missier <pmissier@cs.man.ac.uk>:
> > Hi Paul,
> >  an agreed-upon tag is a good idea. Indeed, ultimately we should not
> > need to maintain a centralized collection of all papers, assuming there
> > "will be" a library-wide search facility across all public collections
> > within Mendeley --  I am not sure that's in place already?  I have only
> > been able to search within my collections, it seems.
> > At that point, sensible and agreed-upon tags will suffice to create
> > views across collections.
> >  ( That leaves us with the problem of duplicates, however)
> >
> > and I like the twitter tag, too :-)
> >
> > -Paolo
> >
> > Paul Groth wrote:
> >> Hi Pablo and everyone,
> >>
> >> I also quite like Mendalay. It also sinks to citeulike.org. I was
> >> thinking it would be nice to have an official tag for the xg. That way
> >> on twitter, or citeulike, or wherever, we could easily collect stuff
> >> together. What do you think of #provxg
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> Paolo Missier wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Yolanda Gil wrote:
> >>>> * Paolo Missier to set up a repository of bibliography entries: 1)
> >>>> discuss in the mailing list to converge on an approach and format,
> >>>> 2) pointed to from the wiki but done in an open format that anyone
> >>>> outside the Provenance Group can edit and that will be extensible
> >>>> beyond the life of the Group.
> >>> I have been playing with Mendeley and created an initial public
> >>> collection (59 provenance papers exported from my own BibDesk
> >>> collection). The result is available here:
> >>> http://www.mendeley.com/collections/335902/provenance/
> >>> which we can link to from the prov-xg wiki.
> >>> some of the entries are incomplete but the point is to curate them
> >>> collectively and incrementally.
> >>>
> >>> I like the Mendeley model where you have a desktop environment which
> >>> allows you to easily manage your entries locally and then sync them
> >>> with public views of some of your collections. It's going through
> >>> teething pains though, for example:
> >>> 1- I can make my own collections public but it's read-only to the world
> >>> 2- I can create a shared collection which I can invite colleagues to
> >>> edit, but it's only /up to ten/ at the moment, and those collections,
> >>> surprisingly, at not exposed to the web site (this should be a
> >>> temporary glitch though)
> >>>
> >>> but we can easily get around these limitations by using (1) and
> >>> creating a common account for the prov-xg group and giving the
> >>> password to people who volunteer to curate the collection.  I am sure
> >>> a year from now collaborative editing will have improved.
> >>>
> >>> I like everything else, including some of the current userbase is
> >>> high profile (see blog entry:
> >>>
> http://www.mendeley.com/blog/research-miscellanea/stanford-vs-cambridge-the-race-is-on/
> )
> >>>
> >>> and their community process for collecting feedback, change requests,
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> Can you please take a look and feel free to send feedback to me or
> >>> get a discussion going on this initiative
> >>>
> >>> thanks -Paolo
> >>
> >
> > --
> > -----------  ~oo~  --------------
> > Dr. Paolo Missier
> > Information Management Group -  School of Computer Science, University of
> Manchester, UK
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