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Re: mendelay + official xg tag?

From: Jim McCusker <mccusker@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:26:26 -0500
Message-ID: <68084f3e0911120426y23a49f21m54b85dda5beafb99@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paolo Missier <pmissier@cs.man.ac.uk>
Cc: public-xg-prov@w3.org
What about Zotero? Zotero 2 allows for online uploads of cites, etc, and
lets you create groups.


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Paolo Missier <pmissier@cs.man.ac.uk>wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>  an agreed-upon tag is a good idea. Indeed, ultimately we should not need
> to maintain a centralized collection of all papers, assuming there "will be"
> a library-wide search facility across all public collections within Mendeley
> --  I am not sure that's in place already?  I have only been able to search
> within my collections, it seems.
> At that point, sensible and agreed-upon tags will suffice to create views
> across collections.
> ( That leaves us with the problem of duplicates, however)
> and I like the twitter tag, too :-)
> -Paolo
> Paul Groth wrote:
>> Hi Pablo and everyone,
>> I also quite like Mendalay. It also sinks to citeulike.org. I was
>> thinking it would be nice to have an official tag for the xg. That way on
>> twitter, or citeulike, or wherever, we could easily collect stuff together.
>> What do you think of #provxg
>> Paul
>> Paolo Missier wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Yolanda Gil wrote:
>>>> * Paolo Missier to set up a repository of bibliography entries: 1)
>>>> discuss in the mailing list to converge on an approach and format, 2)
>>>> pointed to from the wiki but done in an open format that anyone outside the
>>>> Provenance Group can edit and that will be extensible beyond the life of the
>>>> Group.
>>> I have been playing with Mendeley and created an initial public
>>> collection (59 provenance papers exported from my own BibDesk collection).
>>> The result is available here:
>>> http://www.mendeley.com/collections/335902/provenance/
>>> which we can link to from the prov-xg wiki.
>>> some of the entries are incomplete but the point is to curate them
>>> collectively and incrementally.
>>> I like the Mendeley model where you have a desktop environment which
>>> allows you to easily manage your entries locally and then sync them with
>>> public views of some of your collections. It's going through teething pains
>>> though, for example:
>>> 1- I can make my own collections public but it's read-only to the world
>>> 2- I can create a shared collection which I can invite colleagues to
>>> edit, but it's only /up to ten/ at the moment, and those collections,
>>> surprisingly, at not exposed to the web site (this should be a temporary
>>> glitch though)
>>> but we can easily get around these limitations by using (1) and creating
>>> a common account for the prov-xg group and giving the password to people who
>>> volunteer to curate the collection.  I am sure a year from now collaborative
>>> editing will have improved.
>>> I like everything else, including some of the current userbase is high
>>> profile (see blog entry:
>>> http://www.mendeley.com/blog/research-miscellanea/stanford-vs-cambridge-the-race-is-on/)
>>> and their community process for collecting feedback, change requests,
>>> etc.
>>> Can you please take a look and feel free to send feedback to me or get a
>>> discussion going on this initiative
>>> thanks -Paolo
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Jim McCusker
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Yale School of Medicine
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