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RE: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio vocabularies)

From: VassilisTzouvaras <tzouvaras@image.ntua.gr>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:17:44 +0200
Message-Id: <200611281317.kASDHlnn028345@manolito.image.ece.ntua.gr>
To: "'Oscar Celma'" <ocelma@iua.upf.edu>, "'Hausenblas, Michael'" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
Cc: "'RaphaŽl Troncy'" <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>, "'Christian Halaschek-Wiener'" <halasche@cs.umd.edu>, "'MMSem-XG Public List'" <public-xg-mmsem@w3.org>

Dear Oscar and Michael,

I would like to point out that all the standards that are mentioned in the
usecases should be included in the vocabulary document. In this way we can
reference to this document and not repeating the standards description. For
example, in music use case, standards like ID3 and repositories like
MusicBrainz are described instead of having just the links. There might be
the case that standards are described in the use cases and not in the voc
section. In this case, I suggest including them in the voc section and the
editor of the use case is responsible to provide the description.

Regards,
Vassilis




> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-xg-mmsem-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-mmsem-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Oscar Celma
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:22 PM
> To: Hausenblas, Michael
> Cc: RaphaŽl Troncy; Christian Halaschek-Wiener; MMSem-XG Public List
> Subject: Re: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio
vocabularies)
> 
> 
> Dear Micheal,
> 
> Here's a long mail (I do not have a wiki account yet, so please
> copy/paste to the wiki whatever you think is useful...)
> 
> Hausenblas, Michael wrote:
> > RaphaŽl, Oscar, All,
> >
> > 4. W.r.t. the audio MM standards IMHO a bit of expertise from Oscar
> > would be of great help ... :)
>  > RaphaŽl said:
>  > "Furthermore, are "All Music Guide (AMG)", "MusicBrainz Metadata
> Initiative 2.1" and "Compact Disc Database (CDDB)" really vocabularies ?"
> 
> I would say neither AMG (although they have some interesting taxonomies
> with regard to genre/styles) nor CDDB are really vocabularies.
> In my opinion ID3 specification is not clear enough (and very wide), the
> more concrete thing they propose is a list of genres.
> On the other hand, MusicBrainz it is a vocabulary!
> 
> Moreover, some of these vocabularies should be taken into account, too
> (I've tried to add the categorization proposed whenever it was possible):
> 
> * Musicbrainz Schema
> MusicBrainz defined an RDFS definition [1] (you can see the HTML output
> at [2]). Instances in RDF are available via their query language (see
> some results at [3]). An example of their MQ query is:
> 
> <mq:FindAlbum>
> <mq:depth>1</mq:depth>
> <mq:artistName>Pink Floyd</mq:artistName>
> <mq:albumName>Dark Side of the Moon</mq:albumName>
> </mq:FindAlbum>
> 
> -- Musicbrainz Discriminator/Category:
> Representation RDF (R) / RDFS
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow production
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> [1] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/index.rdf
> [2] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/mb.html
> [3] http://musicbrainz.org/MM/mq_examples.html
> 
> * In [4], there are lots of resources about Music Notation and XML. From
> the list available in [4], I would like to mention:
> 
> + MusicXML [5], by Michael Good (Recordare).
> "Recordare has developed MusicXML technology to create an
> Internet-friendly method of publishing musical scores, enabling
> musicians and music fans to get more out of their online music."
> The DTD specification is available at [6].
> 
> -- MusicXML Discriminator/Category:
> Representation XML (X) / DTDs
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow production
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> + MPEG Ad Hoc Group on Symbolic Music Representation, lead by Paolo Nesi
> (see [7]) are working on the standarization process of music notation.
> Don't know the current status, though.
> 
> -- MPEG Ad Hoc Group Discriminator/Category:
> Representation XML (X) / DTDs?
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow production
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> + XMF
> The Extensible Music Format (XMF) [8] is a family of music-related file
> formats created and administered by the MIDI Manufacturer's Association.
> It is based on MIDI files.
> Their goal is (quoted from the website):
> 
> "Create an open standard file format for gathering together into a
> single file all media assets (and/or links to external media assets)
> required to render a MIDI note-based piece (or suite of related pieces)
> in a computer-based player (or possibly an instrument) with consistent
> audio playback across all players and platforms, and suited for
> interactivity, content protection, meta-data, and the Internet – and
> keep it simple."
> 
> [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/xmlMusic.html
> [5] http://www.recordare.com/xml.html
> [6] http://www.recordare.com/dtds/index.html
> [7] http://www.interactivemusicnetwork.org/mpeg-ahg/index.html
> [8] http://www.midi.org/about-midi/xmf/
> 
> * Then there are other small projects/proposals such as:
> 
> + The Kanzaki music ontlogy [9]
> Quoted from the website:
> "A vocabulary to describe classical music and performances. Classes
> (categories) for musical work, event, instrument and performers, as well
> as related properties are defined. Make sure to distinguish musical
> works (e.g. Opera) from performance/event (Opera_Performance), or works
> (String_Quartette) from performer (StringQuartetEnsemble in this vocab),
> whose natural language terms are used interchangeblly. The present
> version experiments more precise model to describe a musical work, its
> representations (performances, scores, etc) and a musical event to
> present a representation (a concert). Includes 30 keys as individuals."
> 
> -- Kanzaki Music Performance ontology Group Discriminator/Category:
> Representation OWL DL
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow premeditation? / production?
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> [9] http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/music
> 
> + Last but not least, there is the music ontology [10] used by Foafing
> the Music project [11]. It includes some descriptors automatically
> extracted from the audio (e.g. Key and mode, beats per minute, meter,
> intensity, etc.)
> 
> -- Foafing the music ontology Group Discriminator/Category:
> Representation OWL DL
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow premeditation
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> [10] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/ISWC2006
> [11] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/
> 
> 
> That's all for now!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Oscar Celma
> 
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