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Re: I18n and Linked Data - an important (but fixable) omission?

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:27:38 +0200
Message-ID: <4E6B2D8A.2000804@few.vu.nl>
To: "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>
CC: Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>, Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org>, Andrew Cunningham <andrewc@vicnet.net.au>, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@dfki.de>, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>, public-i18n-core@w3.org
It is quite long, indeed, and would thus become a focal point of that scope section. IRI are worth mentioning, but they are *way* less important for a *general* library agenda than Linked Data or Open Data.
And as Martin mentioned, IRIs is already taken care of in the RDF spec...

Thereá also a big "can of worms" flashing next to the sentence that has "URL". It's as clearly written as it can be. But for a while, I've made presentations to less technical colleagues in libraries, which included in a same slide both "URL" and "URI". It has never served me, I can tell you!

Antoine


> Tom,
>
> I'm happy with your amendments.
>
> Jeff
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Baker [mailto:tbaker@tbaker.de]
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:42 PM
>> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
>> Cc: Jodi Schneider; Tom Baker; Andrew Cunningham; Karen Coyle; Felix
>> Sasaki; duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp; Antoine Isaac; public-xg-lld; public-
>> i18n-core@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: I18n and Linked Data - an important (but fixable)
>> omission?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 03:33:35PM -0400, Jeff Young wrote:
>>> A Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) is a compact sequence of
>> characters
>>> [in a standardized syntax] that identifies an abstract or physical
>>> resource. [RFC 3986]. An Internationalized Resource Identifier (IRI)
>>> [RFC 3987] compliments URIs by including characters from the
>> Universal
>>> Character Set (Unicode/ISO 10646). While this report follows common
>>> Linked Data practice of using the term "URI", readers should note
> the
>>> increasing prominence of IRIs as non-Latin script resources and
>>> participants are being joined in the Linked Data environment.
>>
>> Missing from this definition, as I see it, is a reference to a prefix
>> ("URI
>> scheme") that grounds the identifier in a global context.  Perhaps
>> that's what
>> the reference to "standardized syntax" is getting at, but I think we
>> could be a
>> bit more explicit on this point.  As written, the first sentence could
>> be taken
>> to mean that a bare ISBN is a URI, whereas it wouldn't really be a URI
>> unless
>> that ISBN number were embedded in a URN, e.g.,: "urn:isbn:0-486-27557-
>> 4".
>>
>> The report also refers to "HTTP URIs", so the point could also provide
>> an
>> opportunity to define those (and relate them to the well-known URLs)
> as
>> well.
>>
>> How about:
>>
>>       *Uniform Resource Identifier (URI)*.  A URI is a sequence of
>>       characters, in a standardized syntax, which is used to identify
> an
>>       abstract or physical resource within the global context of the
>> World Wide
>>       Web.  "HTTP URIs" -- URIs prefixed with "http://", also known as
>> "URLs" --
>>       imply that a representation of the resource can be obtained by a
>> browser
>>       using the most common Web protocol, HTTP.  While this report
>> follows
>>       common Linked Data practice in referring to "URIs", readers
> should
>> note
>>       the growing role of Internationalized Resource Identifiers
> (IRIs),
>> which
>>       compliment URIs by supporting non-Latin scripts.
>>
>> Hmm, a bit long...?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> --
>> Tom Baker<tom@tombaker.org>
>
>
>
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