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Re: Porting wiki pages from LLDXG wiki to W3C SW wiki

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:18:43 +0200
Message-ID: <4EA727B3.1000806@few.vu.nl>
To: "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>
CC: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Hi Jeff,

I've added the link at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Main_Page#Other_relevant_output

Feel free to update, or to move it to the SW wiki, as the other pages, if you think there's a future for this page!

I'm not so sure that MADS/FRSAD/FRAD should be deprecated in favor of SKOS. They do correspond to attested objects and perspectives on things, and meet requirements that SKOS does not meet (especially the coordination stuff in MADS). But there should be a movement to connect them to a common model, true. Which is why I think your page is interesting, I think.

Cheers,  

Antoine


> Antoine,
>
> Fortunately, my "one-man job" had a boost from your MADS/SKOS mapping:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Authority_Concept_Mappings#MADS_Mapping
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/mads/rdf/mads2skos-20101119.ttl
>
> I wish they hadn't folded this separate mapping document into their later release because (IMO) it lowers the signal-to-noise ratio. :-(
>
> I would love it if these tables helped convince people that MADS/FRSAD/FRAD should be deprecated in favor of SKOS. The sooner we can map out to a real data model, the better.
>
> Jeff
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-xg-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-lld-
>> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Isaac
>> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:14 AM
>> To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Porting wiki pages from LLDXG wiki to W3C SW wiki
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Browsing on our wiki, I've found a page that I couldn't remember of,
>> and that could be interesting for re-use/adaptation elsewhere:
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Authority_Concept_Mappings
>>
>> It seems a one-man job :-)
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Authority_Con
>> cept_Mappings&action=history
>>
>> Jeff, what are you thoughts on the future of this?
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, Karen and Gordon!
>>>
>>> I have adapted Gordon's reference from SW wiki to LLD XG wiki, so
>> that the new presentation page also references the older one.
>>>
>>> And I've added disclaimer to clarify on the old pages, that these are
>> deprecated and replaced by the new ones. This way, we should be fully
>> covered.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All
>>>>
>>>> I have created a new page in the SW wiki [1] and copied over the
>> contents of the LLDXG page, which should now be considered frozen.
>>>>
>>>> I also added an introduction, pointing back to the LLDXG page. The
>> two wikis should, between them, have a complete version history.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Gordon
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 October 2011 at 17:51 Tom Baker<tbaker@tbaker.de>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If we were to feel it important to preserve the editorial history
>> of the
>>>>> original wiki page [1], there may be more complicated methods of
>> "exporting" a
>>>>> page with its entire version history and "importing" it into
>> another wiki --
>>>>> but someone would need to look into this. The easier way is to
>> create a new
>>>>> wiki Page B (e.g., [2]), "select all" the source of Page A [3],
>> and paste that
>>>>> source into Page B...
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing so creates a new page with a new version history. Since this
>> page is
>>>>> unsigned, Gordon (or Karen) should perhaps port the page
>> themselves so that the
>>>>> History tab identifies one of them as an author of the first
>> version of the new
>>>>> page. Alternatively, we could simply add an introductory note
>> describing the
>>>>> origins of the page (and pointing back to [3]!), in which Gordon
>> and Karen could
>>>>> be given credit for their work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Library_Data_
>> Resources&action=history
>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>> [3]
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 04:51:21PM +0100, Gordon Dunsire wrote:
>>>>>> +1 for the Library Date Resources page [2] to be ported to the
>> community site; I
>>>>>> hope to assist in keeping it up to date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gordon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 October 2011 at 16:34 Antoine Isaac<aisaac@few.vu.nl>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're approaching the time we'll officially close our group!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This means, among others, that the LLD XG group wiki [1] will
>> be frozen. This
>>>>>>> is the best option if we want to preserve as such (and for a
>> long time!) the
>>>>>>> pages we're citing in our reports -- e.g., the pages for the
>> individual cases
>>>>>>> and the cluster that are cited in the Use Case report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, such a freeze will be global. No page will be
>> editable anymore, which
>>>>>>> can raise problems if some of us have put efforts on pages and
>> would like to
>>>>>>> continue doing so to remain "alive". We can think of the
>> reference page on
>>>>>>> Library Data Resources [2], but there might be others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The solution is to port these pages to the LLD "community
>> site" wiki, which we
>>>>>>> had created on the W3C Semantic Web wiki [3] and that won't be
>> frozen. But we
>>>>>>> should do this before the XG wiki is frozen: after, we won't
>> have access to
>>>>>>> the wiki source. And we need to add a link from the LLD XG
>> pages to the
>>>>>>> "equivalent" pages on the community wiki, so that potential
>> readers can access
>>>>>>> the latest version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we'd like anyone who think we should be porting pages, to
>> voice it now on
>>>>>>> the list! And maybe volunteer to do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The complete list of pages of the LLD XG wiki is at
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Special:AllPages
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antoine, on behalf of Emmanuelle and Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/
>>>>>>> [2]
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tom Baker<tom@tombaker.org>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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