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Re: Porting wiki pages from LLDXG wiki to W3C SW wiki

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:40:00 +0200
Message-ID: <4EA52460.9050300@few.vu.nl>
To: Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
CC: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Yes. We had long discussions on this several months ago, if I remember well. But it seems like the FRBR/RDA anti-patterns (especially on property creation) could not be overruled then :-)

Antoine


> In fact, Karen just cited this one on on the public-lld list [1].
> It seems clear that the issues therein are still open...
>
> Tom
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011Oct/0024.html
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 04:35:32PM -0400, Thomas Baker wrote:
>> Also, what about Gordon's analysis, "Library standards and linked data" [1]?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_linked_data
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 01:14:13PM +0200, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:14:13 +0200
>>> From: Antoine Isaac<aisaac@few.vu.nl>
>>> To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: Porting wiki pages from LLDXG wiki to W3C SW wiki
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>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Browsing on our wiki, I've found a page that I couldn't remember of, and that could be interesting for re-use/adaptation elsewhere:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Authority_Concept_Mappings
>>>
>>> It seems a one-man job :-)
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Authority_Concept_Mappings&action=history
>>>
>>> Jeff, what are you thoughts on the future of this?
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Karen and Gordon!
>>>>
>>>> I have adapted Gordon's reference from SW wiki to LLD XG wiki, so that the new presentation page also references the older one.
>>>>
>>>> And I've added disclaimer to clarify on the old pages, that these are deprecated and replaced by the new ones. This way, we should be fully covered.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All
>>>>>
>>>>> I have created a new page in the SW wiki [1] and copied over the contents of the LLDXG page, which should now be considered frozen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also added an introduction, pointing back to the LLDXG page. The two wikis should, between them, have a complete version history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 October 2011 at 17:51 Tom Baker<tbaker@tbaker.de>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If we were to feel it important to preserve the editorial history of the
>>>>>> original wiki page [1], there may be more complicated methods of "exporting" a
>>>>>> page with its entire version history and "importing" it into another wiki --
>>>>>> but someone would need to look into this. The easier way is to create a new
>>>>>> wiki Page B (e.g., [2]), "select all" the source of Page A [3], and paste that
>>>>>> source into Page B...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doing so creates a new page with a new version history. Since this page is
>>>>>> unsigned, Gordon (or Karen) should perhaps port the page themselves so that the
>>>>>> History tab identifies one of them as an author of the first version of the new
>>>>>> page. Alternatively, we could simply add an introductory note describing the
>>>>>> origins of the page (and pointing back to [3]!), in which Gordon and Karen could
>>>>>> be given credit for their work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Library_Data_Resources&action=history
>>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 04:51:21PM +0100, Gordon Dunsire wrote:
>>>>>>> +1 for the Library Date Resources page [2] to be ported to the community site; I
>>>>>>> hope to assist in keeping it up to date.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gordon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 October 2011 at 16:34 Antoine Isaac<aisaac@few.vu.nl>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're approaching the time we'll officially close our group!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This means, among others, that the LLD XG group wiki [1] will be frozen. This
>>>>>>>> is the best option if we want to preserve as such (and for a long time!) the
>>>>>>>> pages we're citing in our reports -- e.g., the pages for the individual cases
>>>>>>>> and the cluster that are cited in the Use Case report.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, such a freeze will be global. No page will be editable anymore, which
>>>>>>>> can raise problems if some of us have put efforts on pages and would like to
>>>>>>>> continue doing so to remain "alive". We can think of the reference page on
>>>>>>>> Library Data Resources [2], but there might be others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The solution is to port these pages to the LLD "community site" wiki, which we
>>>>>>>> had created on the W3C Semantic Web wiki [3] and that won't be frozen. But we
>>>>>>>> should do this before the XG wiki is frozen: after, we won't have access to
>>>>>>>> the wiki source. And we need to add a link from the LLD XG pages to the
>>>>>>>> "equivalent" pages on the community wiki, so that potential readers can access
>>>>>>>> the latest version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So we'd like anyone who think we should be porting pages, to voice it now on
>>>>>>>> the list! And maybe volunteer to do so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The complete list of pages of the LLD XG wiki is at
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Special:AllPages
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine, on behalf of Emmanuelle and Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/
>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tom Baker<tom@tombaker.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Tom Baker<tom@tombaker.org>
>
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