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Re: vocabs, metadata set, datasets

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:59:23 -0800
Message-ID: <20110120145923.572929d9vvo2ffij@kcoyle.net>
To: Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
Cc: "gordon@gordondunsire.com" <gordon@gordondunsire.com>, Mark van Assem <mark@cs.vu.nl>, public-xg-lld@w3.org
Quoting Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>:

> I see the argument but still see a problem with the notion of
> a record being "about" something.  Looking at a bibliographic
> record through traditional bibliographic glasses, one does see
> a set of data elements "about" a book.  Looking at that same
> record through RDF glasses, however, one may see statements
> "about" several different things -- the book, its author,
> the publisher, etc.

As I said before, I don't see it this way. Even though RDF is much  
more flexible than the old record model, it has the concept of  
"subject" -- the subject of the statements, in my mind, defines the  
"about". Library data contains things like author identification as an  
object, but the author is a subject only in the name authority record  
(or foaf Person description set). I really don't see statements about  
authors, publishers, etc. in a library catalog record for a book. All  
of the data there should be with the book as the subject.

In other words, what Jeff said.


> The DCMI Abstract Model tried to express this point by
> distinguishing between a Description (a set of statements
> about just one resource -- e.g., the book OR the author OR
> the publisher) and a Description Set -- a set of related
> descriptions bundled together for practical purposes in a
> single metadata "record".
> Yes, we need to use a terminology related as recognizably as
> possible to things already familiar to the intended reader,
> but we also need to point out to readers where perspectives
> differ.  On this point, I suggest we find a way to say
> that "records" may provide descriptive statements "about"
> more than one something.
> Tom
> --
> Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>

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