- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:00:10 -0700
- To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Quoting Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>: Plus I'm quite sure that many other > package curators don't know such tags exists. > In fact I'm not sure how the LOD Cloud guys could create > http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/lodcloud/state/#terms . > Perhaps by analysing the dumps, which is of course impossible for us. Now you've made me want to see a tag cloud with property names! :-) kc p.s. I think including this is useful as a visualization, but we shouldn't pretend that it means more than it does. > > >> Yes, and yes. It will also need a short paragraph explaining what >> the tagcloud represents. >> > > > Of course. Thanks for the feedback! > > Antoine > > > >> >> On 26 Aug 2011, at 13:04, Antoine Isaac wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Among the TODOs to clean at the last moment for the side >>> deliverable, there is one on visualizing Metadata Element Sets: >>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabulary_and_Dataset#Metadata_Element_Sets >>> >>> The original idea was to show the relations between Sets and their >>> relative importance (as indicated by their usage in individual >>> cases). >>> The inspiration was Mondeca's Linked Open Vocabularies: we wanted >>> to do the same kind of graph as >>> http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabularySpace_Library.html, >>> but >> >> Do you think that this is representative, without basing it >> directly on our use cases? In that case, it would additionally be >> worth including. >> >>> - based on our use cases only >>> - with links between element sets, as in >>> http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabulary_skos.html >> >> It's a shame that there aren't statistics we could easily get out >> of CKAN, using our LLD CKAN group (rather than the use cases) as >> the starting point. But I do concede that we don't have so much time! >> >>> >>> There was even a mock-up: >>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:LLD-MetadataElementSetCloudMock.png >>> Unfortunately, it has obvious that the editors of the side >>> deliverable don't have enough resources to gather the data needed >>> to create this: Mondeca's scripts use a SPARQL endpoint, for which >>> we'd have to create fairly rich data. >>> >>> BUT as I was about to remove the mock-up, I saw that the site Paul >>> Walk has made in Pittsburgh was still alive: >>> http://www.paulwalk.net/lldvis/ >>> Even better, I've discovered that: >>> 1. I can easily remove from this page the value vocabularies, >>> keeping the element sets only >>> 2. I can add new element sets, fitting the latest version of our >>> side deliverable. In fact we can really add them in the data >>> behind Paul's page, and attach use cases to them. But perhaps >>> that's not needed, we can tweak the size of the tags manually... >>> >>> So I've implemented step 1 and created a tag cloud for the >>> metadata element sets: >>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/lld/LLDMES.html >>> >>> It's clearly not the full monty we were dreaming of, but it still >>> gives some idea on usage of element sets.And it's really easy to >>> make. >>> I could continue this, adding the element sets we miss. And then >>> take a screenshot to be included in the side deliverable: I'm >>> afraid we can't fit in the real HTML code, as it is heavily >>> depending on scripts that are on Paul's site. >>> >>> Do you think that would be worth it? And it's not too late? >> >> Yes, and yes. It will also need a short paragraph explaining what >> the tagcloud represents. >> >> >> :) -Jodi >> >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Antoine >>> >> > > > -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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