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Re: Visualizing metadata element sets in side deliverable -- quite urgent feedback request

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:00:10 -0700
Message-ID: <20110826080010.107117xgwtl7yaka@kcoyle.net>
To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Quoting Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>:

  Plus I'm quite sure that many other
> package curators don't know such tags exists.
> In fact I'm not sure how the LOD Cloud guys could create  
> http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/lodcloud/state/#terms .
> Perhaps by analysing the dumps, which is of course impossible for us.

Now you've made me want to see a tag cloud with property names!

:-)
kc

p.s. I think including this is useful as a visualization, but we  
shouldn't pretend that it means more than it does.

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>> Yes, and yes. It will also need a short paragraph explaining what  
>> the tagcloud represents.
>>
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> Of course. Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Antoine
>
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>> On 26 Aug 2011, at 13:04, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Among the TODOs to clean at the last moment for the side  
>>> deliverable, there is one on visualizing Metadata Element Sets:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabulary_and_Dataset#Metadata_Element_Sets
>>>
>>> The original idea was to show the relations between Sets and their  
>>> relative importance (as indicated by their usage in individual  
>>> cases).
>>> The inspiration was Mondeca's Linked Open Vocabularies: we wanted  
>>> to do the same kind of graph as  
>>> http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabularySpace_Library.html,  
>>> but
>>
>> Do you think that this is representative, without basing it  
>> directly on our use cases? In that case, it would additionally be  
>> worth including.
>>
>>> - based on our use cases  only
>>> - with links between element sets, as in  
>>> http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabulary_skos.html
>>
>> It's a shame that there aren't statistics we could easily get out  
>> of CKAN, using our LLD CKAN group (rather than the use cases) as  
>> the starting point. But I do concede that we don't have so much time!
>>
>>>
>>> There was even a mock-up:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:LLD-MetadataElementSetCloudMock.png
>>> Unfortunately, it has obvious that the editors of the side  
>>> deliverable don't have enough resources to gather the data needed  
>>> to create this: Mondeca's scripts use a SPARQL endpoint, for which  
>>> we'd have to create fairly rich data.
>>>
>>> BUT as I was about to remove the mock-up, I saw that the site Paul  
>>> Walk has made in Pittsburgh was still alive:  
>>> http://www.paulwalk.net/lldvis/
>>> Even better, I've discovered that:
>>> 1. I can easily remove from this page the value vocabularies,  
>>> keeping the element sets only
>>> 2. I can add new element sets, fitting the latest version of our  
>>> side deliverable. In fact we can really add them in the data  
>>> behind Paul's page, and attach use cases to them. But perhaps  
>>> that's not needed, we can tweak the size of the tags manually...
>>>
>>> So I've implemented step 1 and created a tag cloud for the  
>>> metadata element sets:
>>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/lld/LLDMES.html
>>>
>>> It's clearly not the full monty we were dreaming of, but it still  
>>> gives some idea on usage of element sets.And it's really easy to  
>>> make.
>>> I could continue this, adding the element sets we miss. And then  
>>> take a screenshot to be included in the side deliverable: I'm  
>>> afraid we can't fit in the real HTML code, as it is heavily  
>>> depending on scripts that are on Paul's site.
>>>
>>> Do you think that would be worth it? And it's not too late?
>>
>> Yes, and yes. It will also need a short paragraph explaining what  
>> the tagcloud represents.
>>
>>
>> :) -Jodi
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>
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