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Re: Citation Cluster

From: Kai Eckert <kai@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:01:09 +0100
Message-ID: <4D020875.1070208@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
To: "Tillett, Barbara" <btil@loc.gov>
CC: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>, "public-lld@w3.org" <public-lld@w3.org>
I created an illustration that hopefully sheds some light on the model 
that we so far had in mind. It is linked in the cluster document [1], 
here is the direct link.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14362931/lld/citation.png

I thought about the proper naming of the involved classes and now have 
the following three:

BIBLIOGRAPHIC RESOURCE: A book, paper, article, ... publication
REFERENCE: An entry in the bibliography / references of a BIBLIOGRAPHIC 
RESOURCE
CITATION: A citation within the text, for example when a direct 
quotation is made, linked to a REFERENCE.

As I understand the current discussion, the question is, if the 
REFERENCE as an own class is needed, or if we can just represent it as a 
Bibliographic Resource, i.e. directly link the cited resource. I think 
we need it to organize the citations in a bibliographic resource.

Another question might be, if we want to repeat the bibliographic 
information for the reference, if we can directly link the bibliographic 
resource that is identified by the reference. One reason might be the 
desire to represent the actual information that is found in the 
reference list. Of course we could always introduce a Bibliographic 
Resource and add the information there. In this case, at a later point 
in time a mapping by owl:sameAs could take place. But then it would be 
at least difficult to regain the information that was found originally 
in the bibliography.

Does that make sense?

Cheers,

Kai

[1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_Citations

Am 09.12.2010 13:51, schrieb Tillett, Barbara:
> Why is "citation" not just an application of using bibliographic data that identifies a bibliographic entity?  Isn't the bibliographic data part (separate from the relationship information connecting the cited work and the citing work) the same as in a bibliographic record (granted less)? - Barbara
>
> Barbara B. Tillett, Ph.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lld-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kai Eckert
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:02 AM
> To: public-xg-lld; public-lld@w3.org
> Subject: Citation Cluster
>
> Dear all,
>
> Ed, Peter and I further worked on the curation of the citation cluster and as promised (ACTION delivered), I now created a wiki page:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_Citations
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kai
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D-68159 Mannheim
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