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Re: Citation Cluster

From: Kai Eckert <kai@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:14:50 +0100
Message-ID: <4D00D64A.8080505@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
To: "Tillett, Barbara" <btil@loc.gov>
CC: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>, "public-lld@w3.org" <public-lld@w3.org>
Dear Barbara,

yes and no. While the representation looks more or less the same and 
probably an existing vocabulary can be reused, it is in our opinion 
important to distinguish between the citation of a resource and the 
resource itself.  We tried to motivate this in the cluster document.

First, there might be the need to represent citations without having a 
proper URI at hand to identify the resource. We think that the citation, 
as it is found in a bibliography, should be representable as a resource 
of its own.

Second, there are a lot of statements that can be made about the 
citation that can not be assigned to the cited resource directly. For 
example that location of the citation in the citing document, the part 
of the cited document that is cited and so on.

But of course, the main goal in a linked data setting should be to 
esatblish a link between the citation and the actually cited resource. 
And I agree, it might be the best way to immediately create a 
BibliographicResource for each citation (assumed that not something like 
a dataset is cited) and assign a local URI, if no global is known, but 
these are implementation details.

I hope that clarifies our rationale so far, we are far away from an 
actual implementation, this is just a first summary of the things that 
we extracted from the scenarios in the cluster.

Cheers,

Kai

Am 09.12.2010 13:51, schrieb Tillett, Barbara:
> Why is "citation" not just an application of using bibliographic data that identifies a bibliographic entity?  Isn't the bibliographic data part (separate from the relationship information connecting the cited work and the citing work) the same as in a bibliographic record (granted less)? - Barbara
>
> Barbara B. Tillett, Ph.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lld-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kai Eckert
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:02 AM
> To: public-xg-lld; public-lld@w3.org
> Subject: Citation Cluster
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> Dear all,
>
> Ed, Peter and I further worked on the curation of the citation cluster and as promised (ACTION delivered), I now created a wiki page:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_Citations
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kai
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D-68159 Mannheim
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