RE: R26. There should exist a high quality default speech recognition visual user interface.

I think this is better, we don't need to get into the exact modalities that the control uses, it's just the ability to control speech recognition that we're interested in.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-xg-htmlspeech-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-htmlspeech-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn Bringert
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:37 AM
> To: Deborah Dahl
> Cc: Olli@pettay.fi; public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
> Subject: Re: R26. There should exist a high quality default speech recognition
> visual user interface.
> 
> That sounds good, but we probably shouldn't be restricting it to a
> visual interface at all. Non-visual user agents should also provide a
> default user interface for speech recognition, and we don't need to
> require that the speech recognition interface is visual even in visual
> user agents.
> 
> So how about:
> 
> "User agents must provide a default interface to control speech recognition."
> 
> /Bjorn
> 
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Deborah Dahl
> <dahl@conversational-technologies.com> wrote:
> > I agree that it would be good if we can avoid addressing what the user
> interface to speech recognition control should look like or how it should be
> operated. But, as you say, it would be reasonable for the eventual spec to
> define what features the UA must provide, although I don't think we want to
> get into the specifics of that now.
> > I think the intent of your proposed rewording is reasonable, but it seems a
> little indirect. Would something like this be clearer?
> > "User agents that include a visual display must provide a default visual
> interface to control speech recognition. "
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-xg-htmlspeech-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-
> htmlspeech-
> >> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn Bringert
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:05 AM
> >> To: Deborah Dahl
> >> Cc: Olli@pettay.fi; public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
> >> Subject: Re: R26. There should exist a high quality default speech
> recognition
> >> visual user interface.
> >>
> >> I don't think that we have to address what the user interface should
> >> be. That should be up to user agent implementors. In the eventual
> >> spec, we just need to specify what web apps can expect, and what
> >> minimum features user agents must provide. Maybe an alternative
> >> phrasing would be:
> >>
> >> "Web applications should not be forced to provide their own visual
> >> interface for controlling speech recognition."
> >>
> >> /Bjorn
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Deborah Dahl
> >> <dahl@conversational-technologies.com> wrote:
> >> > I think Olli's wording is a little clearer.
> >> > I think we need something like this, especially in the development
> phase.
> >> However, I think there's a danger that we might get bogged down in "high
> >> quality", especially if we think that "high quality" includes "visually
> >> appealing". I think "informative" and "usable" would be better
> descriptions.
> >> > Also, a high-quality, or  even just informative and usable, default visual
> >> interface will need to be different for different devices, depending on
> screen
> >> size, keyboard, touchscreen vs. mouse, availability of physical buttons,
> etc.
> >> We can't address every device, so should we just focus on one or two
> major
> >> devices, like desktop browser and "generic small-screen device"?
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: public-xg-htmlspeech-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-
> >> htmlspeech-
> >> >> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Olli Pettay
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:02 AM
> >> >> To: public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: R26. There should exist a high quality default speech
> >> recognition
> >> >> visual user interface.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 11/16/2010 12:52 PM, Bjorn Bringert wrote:
> >> >> > Keep.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I agree.
> >> >> Though the wording of the requirement is a bit strange.
> >> >> Had to read
> >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-
> htmlspeech/2010Nov/att-
> >> >> 0102/requirements.html#r26
> >> >> to understand it fully.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could something like this work better:
> >> >> "There should exist a high quality default visual user interface for the
> >> >> speech recognition."
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Olli
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Dan
> Burnett<dburnett@voxeo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> Group,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This is the next of the requirements to discuss and prioritize based
> on
> >> our
> >> >> >> ranking approach [1].
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This email is the beginning of a thread for questions, discussion, and
> >> >> >> opinions regarding our first draft of Requirement 26 [2].
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please discuss via email as we agreed at the Lyon f2f meeting.
> >> >> Outstanding
> >> >> >> points of contention will be discussed live at an upcoming
> >> teleconference.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -- dan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [1]
> >> >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-
> >> >> htmlspeech/2010Oct/0024.html
> >> >> >> [2]
> >> >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-
> htmlspeech/2010Oct/att-
> >> >> 0001/speech.html#r26
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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