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Re: [georss] Geospatial Incubator Group

From: Mike Liebhold <mnl@well.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:37:20 -0700
Message-ID: <44BE7BE0.9080109@well.com>
To: "Josh@oklieb" <josh@oklieb.net>
CC: georss@lists.eogeo.org, GeoXG GeoXG <public-xg-geo@w3.org>
While I am thrilled to hear of any significant efforts in building 
useful spatial semantics, and extended interoperable ontologies I am 
hoping we can simply focus on setting a basic standard for coding 
location coordinates for waypoints, point annotations and geocoded web 

In my humble opinion a simple exchange of point objects is THE 
foundation of a geospatial web. After that we're in for years of debate 
and discussion about more complex metastructures including various 
semantic, rendering and logical descriptions.

So far so good. let's just keep it simple, for now. Personally I can't 
wait for the real  dialogue to begin on harmonizing OWL/RDF with GML, 
KML, SVG, and 18 other higher level knowledge structures. But in the 
meantime will be absolutely delighted if we can effect universal 
adoption of the simplest, easiest to implement point geocodes.


Josh@oklieb wrote:

> This is a good discussion which I would like to include in the geoxg  
> list as well. There is usually some tension between starting small  
> and creating a comprehensive foundation. In this case I envision that  
> there are plenty of tools on both the SemWeb and GeoWeb sides. The  
> small steps (e.g. GeoRSS) are working out how they can effectively be  
> combined. An OWL realization of the GML / 19107 feature model is  
> sitting out there as a somewhat straightforward goal, but we (at  
> least I) do not understand yet how best to enhance both sides with  
> this development.
> Josh
> On Jul 19, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Ron Lake wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I agree, provided you have already thought out HOW to extend beyond  the
>> simple stuff - since that extension will happen rather quickly.
>> R
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gregor J. Rothfuss [mailto:gregor@apache.org]
>> Sent: July 19, 2006 10:07 AM
>> To: Ron Lake
>> Cc: Carl Reed OGC Account; Mike Liebhold; noiv; georss@lists.eogeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [georss] Geospatial Incubator Group
>> Ron Lake wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> If we want to build a solid foundation for geospatial extensions to
>> the
>>> semantic web - or flipped the other way to add more semantics into  the
>>> GeoWeb - how is geoRSS a foundation.  It strikes me as too limiting
>>> unless you have a very restricted notion of what the Geo-Semantic Web
>>> means.  I would more favour directions like an OWL encoding of GML or
>>> OWL decoration of GML.
>> too limiting for whom? it boils down to whether you want to cater  to 
>> GIS
>> professionals, or a couple orders of magnitude more people. starting
>> with something simple that fits on 2 pages of spec strikes me as a
>> superior idea if you want uptake. you can always come back and extend
>> once people actually use the simple stuff.
>> -gregor
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