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Re: OneSocialWeb Project Status

From: Simon Tennant (buddycloud) <simon@buddycloud.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:38:37 +0200
Message-ID: <4E0236AD.6080702@buddycloud.com>
To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
CC: W3C Federated Social Web Incubator <public-xg-federatedsocialweb@w3.org>, Daniel VF-GroupAppelquist <Daniel.Appelquist@vodafone.com>, federated-social-web@googlegroups.com, onesocialweb@googlegroups.com
I like the "what users want" part of that.

What I do fear is the one size fits all approach to these frameworks. 
All services have some basic elements: activity streams, followers,
following, posts.  Beyond that, they have very different business logic
and I've never seen anyone propose a solution and indeed don't think
it's often even possible to find an elegant mashing-together of the
different rules.

How would your framework deal with the different business logic between


On 22/06/2011 16:06, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote:
> Wouldn't a general framework for federating social webs based on what users want instead of a technology make more sense? Combining SIOC standards, OMA standards, SemWeb and open source standards and the enabling technologies should automatically follow.
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> --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Appelquist, Daniel, VF-Group <Daniel.Appelquist@vodafone.com> wrote:
> From: Appelquist, Daniel, VF-Group <Daniel.Appelquist@vodafone.com>
> Subject: OneSocialWeb Project Status
> To: "W3C Federated Social Web Incubator" <public-xg-federatedsocialweb@w3.org>
> Cc: federated-social-web@googlegroups.com, onesocialweb@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 1:11 PM
> Hello Federated Social Web peeps -
> I'm writing to let you all know what is happening with the OneSocialWeb
> project. As many of you know, this project was originally conceived by
> Laurent Eschenauer and Alard Weisscher in late 2009.  Along with Diana Cheng
> (and with some encouragement and cheerleading from myself and others in
> Vodafone R&D) they built the project up as a prototype of what you could do
> with XMPP in the federated social networking space. Unfortunately, due to
> some circumstances out of all of our control, Laurent and Alard had to leave
> Vodafone. At that point, we took the decision to continue the project with
> myself and Diana. During the past year we have kept the project going,
> including adding some new features (e.g. commenting) and we've also seen the
> open source community around OneSocialWeb grow, with a few
> community-developed clients (notably, the iPhone client).  We've also
> learned a lot about the federated social networking space both through the
> project and through participation in the burgeoning community.
> However, we have limited resources, and we have now taken the decision to
> concentrate what time we can spend on the federated social Web in the area
> of protocols and standards. This means we will not be actively updating the
> code base for OneSocialWeb (server or client), nor will we be adding
> features. We will Continue to work on the protocol, and will support any
> implementers (such as ProcessOne) and collaborate with them to improve it
> and expand it.  Our intention is to contribute the work we have done on XMPP
> extensions (e.g. Activity Streams over XMPP) into the relevant XMPP
> technical committees.
> Having said all that, all the code that has been produced is up there on
> GitHub.  I know that several projects have used the code to develop their
> own prototypes. It's our view that the OneSocialWeb open source community
> has not grown to the point where it can become self-sustaining, but if
> anyone would like to step forward to take ownership of the code-base we
> would be more than happy to discuss this.
> As we stated in the summit in Berlin, we are committed to making the FSW
> a reality, and we (Diana and I) will continue actively participating in the
> FSW incubator group and list and will con tribute to all the XMPP social
> specs, and not only OSW. We will also like to be there to facilitate in any
> way we can the work and activities of the FSW community.
> Thanks,
> Dan Appelquist
> Vodafone Group R&D

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