RE: ACTION-79 Redraft out-of-scope item for phone

I was following the email discussion and had already added SS7, ISDN and
NANP to the list of non-web protocols. Are there any I missed?
 
In general, I'll try to pick up any details I find in the mailing list.
If you think I missed one, send me an email.
 
Tyler

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Subject: Re: ACTION-79 Redraft out-of-scope item for phone



I like the idea of listing as many non-web protocols as we agree on in
the course of our discussions. It logs the concensus, and gives us
something to refer to if needed. Tyler will have to tell us what process
to use to put these additions into 4.1 of the Note. 

          Mez

Mary Ellen Zurko, STSM, IBM Lotus CTO Office       (t/l 333-6389)
Lotus/WPLC Security Strategy and Patent Innovation Architect




Brad Porter <brad@tellme.com>
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01/22/2007 02:09 PM

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Brad Porter wrote: 
It appears the wiki content has been incorporated in the NOTE already.
I believe sections 4.1 (Non-web protocols) and 4.2 (Non-web user agents)
are sufficient to cover the case.  If we wanted to add ISDN/SSN to the
non-web protocols section, we could, but it does not appear necessary.

--Brad

Brad Porter wrote: 
Here's my proposed text.  

=================
Out of scope:
- Security context information, controls, and authentication information
based on non-Internet protocols and data such as telephony network
protocols (SS7, ISDN, NANP)
=================

Unfortunately the term "non-Internet protocols" seems a little
underspecified, but gets to the intent of what we discussed on the phone
today.  If anyone has better text or objections, please respond,
otherwise I will put this in the Wiki.

--Brad


Mary Ellen Zurko wrote: 

Thanks. Please add it to the wiki:

http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/wiki/NoteOutOfScope
<http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/wiki/NoteOutOfScope> 


         Mez

Mary Ellen Zurko, STSM, IBM Lotus CTO Office       (t/l 333-6389)
Lotus/WPLC Security Strategy and Patent Innovation Architect



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Out of scope:

Communications that are initiated by means of a telephone number
including telephone calls and SMS messages regardless of whether
Internet Protocol and/or Web Services are employed as a transport
mechanism


Rationale:

While attacks against both the legacy telephone system and VOIP are
increasing the architecture and governance of the telephone network and
Internet are very different. In particular any communication that is
initiated by means of a telephone number is effectively regulated by one
or more governments at a detailed level regardless of where it is made.
Remediation methods such as interception or termination that are
routinely used to control telephone based fraud are challenging in the
unregulated Internet environment where accountability is poor and even
the determining who the responsible party is represents a significant
challenge, let alone getting them to act.