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IRC log discrepancies

From: Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:15:25 -0400
Message-Id: <4A52AB79-8B17-4658-BA83-787A45B60493@hitachisoftware.com>
To: public-ws-resource-access@w3.org
I reported an irc log bug awhile back and received a response about  
the correction.
The problem I found was that occasionally, lines that appeared in the  
html version of the irc log did not appear in the text version of the  
The text version of the log is what minutes are generated from (That  
is what I use and it is the recommended format according to the  
scribe.perl documentation.

I had noticed this discrepancy when preparing the minutes of 2009-03-24.
Below is the response I received from Ralph Swick.
Please, if you are researching how a particular line was scribed,  
check all of the versions if there seems to be a discrepancy.

> Begin forwarded message:
>> This is very disconcerting.  The HTML and RDF files contain the line
>> while the TXT file does not.
>> I looked at the RRSAgent process logs for unusual diagnostics.
>> The missing line occurs precisely at a cvs commit.  The #ac log files
>> were committed at the same time and have a similar discrepancy.
>> The only thing I have been able to find in the process log is a
>> cvs 'waiting for lock' message when those commits were issued.
>> These lockwaits are not an unusual occurrence.  I looked in detail
>> at a few other instances of lockwait and could find no missing log
>> text in any of those cases.
>> Autoflush is enabled for the log files (I verified this).  My current
>> hypothesis is that cvs was rewriting the file during the commit
>> and in some very rare case would overwrite new text added by
>> RRSAgent in the middle of the commit.
>> I have added the -ko option to turn off cvs rewrite of the files  
>> (this
>> should have been the default anyway),  This change will be deployed
>> when I restart RRSAgent which I will try to do tonight.
>> At 10:28 AM 3/30/2009 +0200, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote:
>>> Hi Ralph,
>>> Le mercredi 25 mars 2009 à 07:18 -0400, Bob Freund a écrit :
>>>> Dear Systems Team,
>>>> the line at 20:45:03 in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-ws-ra-irc
>>>> cannot be located in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-ws-ra-irc.txt
>>>> this makes me wonder what else I have missed.
>>> Bob Freund noted a discrepancy between the .txt and .html version  
>>> of the
>>> IRC log recorded by RRSAgent; is this a known bug in RRSAgent? Is  
>>> this
>>> something you want to investigate further?
>>> Dom

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