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Re: Strawman for AI 286, 303, 305, 313

From: Monica J. Martin <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:57:10 -0700
To: Maryann Hondo <mhondo@us.ibm.com>
Cc: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>, public-ws-policy@w3.org, public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
Message-id: <467013D6.6060907@sun.com>


MaryAnn,
I support your proposal. I do have a few minor editorial sections to 
support existing text in the Framework.  Thanks.

> Maryann Hondo wrote:  Dave,
> I'm totally open to other alternatives.
> I just tried to reuse what seemed to be a "common" term. My main goal 
> was to group the same information in one place
> rather than having it sprinkled throughout.
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> Maryann
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> *"David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>*
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> 	RE: Strawman for AI 286, 303, 305, 313
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> I think I'm ok with most of the changes, but I have a lot of heartburn 
> over the issue of "XML Outlines" AI 305 and tying WS-Policy to them. 
>  I think we should say something more generic like a human readable 
> and machine processable description.  I don't see any customers doing 
> custom assertions using "XML Outlines", that's only geeks like us in 
> the WS-* groups.
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> But I think it me to propose something.  I'll bring it up on the 
> policy wg call somewhere.
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> Cheers,
> Dave
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> *From:* public-ws-policy-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Maryann Hondo*
> Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:30 PM*
> To:* public-ws-policy@w3.org*
> Subject:* Strawman for AI 286, 303, 305, 313
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> All,
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> I've had several AI's for the Guidelines document, and I have created 
> a strawman for addressing them.
> I've created a diff doc against the latest version of the Guidelines 
> document to address the following:
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> AI 286 - There has been an ongoing action to deal with the Guidelines 
> document with regard to things we
> have learned from the WS-Addressing groups efforts to create new 
> assertions.
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>        Monica had floated several proposals dealing with context and 
> vocabulary.
>        I tried to incorporate this input into the sections 5.4.2 
> "Nested Assertions" and Section 8 "Designing Assertions".
>        I may not have captured all the text, but I thought I'd tee 
> this up for discussion
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> AI 303 - propose "bumper sticker text"
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>        This one came up at the F2F where we were discussing changes to 
> BP 7.
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>        This may seem like a radical change, but when I looked at the 
> table of Best Practices, I couldn't really relate
>        to this list.  It seemed very inconsistent in its "guidance". 
>  I looked at other BP docs at the W3C and used the
>        I18N one as an example.
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>        I took the model of having each item  be
>                "Best Practice # - <statement> "
>        I think its now more of a clear "should" or "action" statement 
> ( but am always open to friendly amendments)
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> AI 305- Generalize Best Practice for XML outline
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>        I moved a bunch of things around trying to "group" all the best 
> practices that deal with the XML outline section
>        and I included an example from the Reliable exchange document.
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>        In doing this I also restructured the "ignorable" and 
> "optional" sections to remove the "general guidance" on
>        defining the attributes ( since this is now in the "general" 
> section) and tried to add text to make the sections
>        be more in parallel.
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> AI 313 - Bug 3978---- Section 7
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>        I still think the Best Practices text in this section should be 
> included.  But I think it was in the wrong place.
>        So I propose moving it to Section  5.7 and propose rewording 
> this to be Best Practices for Policy Attachment.
>        Then have a "general" section, and then have a section for 
> "WSDL" specific Best practices.
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> Maryann
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