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RE: NEW ISSUE: [GUIDELINES] Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorab le o n the same assertion

From: Prasad Yendluri <prasad.yendluri@webmethods.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:23:33 -0500
Message-ID: <BDD4EF3331E8FB4EA19B677CDAD63020B503FB@ca-exbe1.webm.webmethods.com>
To: "Henry, William" <William.Henry@iona.com>, Prasad Yendluri <prasad.yendluri@webmethods.com>, public-ws-policy@w3.org
wsp:Optional is just a syntactic sugar, for two alternatives one with the
assertion and one without.

If an assertion say "A" also had wsp:Ignorable=true, then one alternative
would have the assertion A with @wsp:Ignorable=true and other where the
assertion A would not be present. This is what we discussed at the
Burlington f2f IIRC. What is the use case that would preclude the use of
both on the same assertion? If we find one, then this issue becomes a LC
issue on the Framework document.

 

Regards,

Prasad

 

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o n the same assertion

 

Is this really the case? I'm not sure the intent was ever to have both these
in that same assertion. Was it?

I'd have thought the guidelines should have shown that these were for two
different types of use case.  Can some explain the use case that was dreamed
up where the make sense together?


William


William Henry
Enterprise Architect, Director
IONA Technologies Inc.
william.henry@iona.com

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Title: Provide clear guidance on the specification of @wsp:optional=true and
@wsp:Ignorable=true on the same assertion



Target:  Guidelines Document



Description:

The framework specification does not explicitly state if an assertion can be
marked both optional and ignorable. However, as we discussed since
@wsp:optional is just a syntactic simplification, it is permitted to mark an
assertion with both the @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable with the value of
"true" for both.



I ask that the guidelines document add some guidance to clarify this aspect.



Justification: No clarify in this aspect anywhere else



Proposal: Add a text to the guidelines document to clarify that both the
attributes wsp:optional and wsp:Ignorable with the value of "true" for both,
can be specified on the same assertion



Regards,

Prasad
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