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Proposed Resolution: Primer Issue 3809 (was FW: [Bug 3809] Primer uses an Assertion that does not exist

From: Asir Vedamuthu <asirveda@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:25:31 -0800
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>In order for the Primer to "refer" to an assertion 
>and use it, the assertion should be available or 
>it should be defined.

Agree. We suggest using a stable URI for the referenced MTOM
serialization policy assertion -
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2004/09/policy/optimizedmimeserialization/
.

Regards,
 
Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation


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Subject: [Bug 3809] Primer uses an Assertion that does not exist


http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3809

           Summary: Primer uses an Assertion that does not exist
           Product: WS-Policy
           Version: FPWD
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: Primer
        AssignedTo: umit.yalcinalp@sap.com
        ReportedBy: umit.yalcinalp@sap.com
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Title: Primer uses an assertion for MTOM that does not exist

Description: 

The primer utilizes MTOM Serialization assertion. There are several
problems
with this assertion. These problems make the assertion use by a
reference
inappropriate

Although the serialization optimization has been defined by XMLP wg, the
WS-Policy assertion appears to exists only in products privately. The
definition of the assertion is not available. Therefore, its scope and
subject
is not known. 

The primer uses the assertion reference & namespace in a localized
fashion only
to define Optional Assertions in Section 2.6 and Appendix B. 

Justification: 

In order for the Primer to "refer" to an assertion and use it, the
assertion
should be available or it should be defined. 

Proposal: 

There are three options: 

-- Owner(s) of the assertion may consider submitting to w3c as a
contribution
to generate a stable URI for reference. 

-- The Primer document can define the Assertion and its scope as an
illustrative example. 

-- Since the utility of the mythical MTOM assertion in the referred
chapter is
to illustrate optional assertion use, instead WS-RMP defined by OASIS
WS-RX tc
can be used. Its semantics/ scope is available and it is also used with
optional="true" attribute. 

Pros/Cons: 

Since MTOM serialization optimization capability is a general
requirement,
defining it just in the Primer document will not enable its reuse.
Submission
of the MTOM assertion could enable its general use, not as an
illustration for
WS-Policy, but it may take time. 

Without the presence of a stable URI and definition of MTOM assertion,
my
preference is 3.
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