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RE: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action08

From: Asir Vedamuthu <asirveda@microsoft.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:13:19 -0700
Message-ID: <4DF3D07B9910264B9470DA1F811D1A950AE0636C@RED-MSG-43.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "Frederick Hirsch" <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>
Cc: "Ashok Malhotra" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>

> Should the following be added to 3.4

The quoted sentence describes the semantics of the domain expression in
4.2.

> and we should just remove 4.2.

I think so too.

Regards,
 
Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick Hirsch [mailto:frederick.hirsch@nokia.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:22 PM
To: Asir Vedamuthu
Cc: Frederick Hirsch; Ashok Malhotra; public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: Re:
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action08

It looks like 4.2 repeats the material in 3.4, apart from one sentence.

Thus we can remove 4.2, but do we need to capture the sense of the  
last sentence in 4.2? It says:

"Use of this domain expression is equivalent to policy attachment to  
a deployed endpoint in WSDL, using the wsdl11:port element, i.e., the  
effective policy resulting from the combination of policies declared  
should be considered a part of the endpoint policy scope."

Should the following be added to 3.4 after 4.2 is removed (adding  
before the pseudo-schema paragraph):

"Using an external policy attachment applied to an endpoint reference  
is equivalent to directly attaching the policy to a WSDL port element."

Maybe this is primer material, and we should just remove 4.2.

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia


On Jul 20, 2006, at 1:36 AM, ext Asir Vedamuthu wrote:

> I think the syntax and semantics of domain expressions should be  
> respectfully delegated to experts in their respective domains.
>
>
>
> + 1 to remove section 4.2 in WS-PolicyAttachment.
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Asir S Vedamuthu
>
> Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy- 
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ashok Malhotra
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Subject: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action08
>
>
>
> Section 3.4 of the PolicyAttachment document introduces an External  
> Policy attachment mechanism
>
> that uses a domainExpression to refer to the policy subject.  But  
> there is little discussion of what domain
>
> expressions can refer to.
>
>
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> Section 4.2 of the PolicyAttachment document gives an example of a  
> domainExpression.
>
> First, this is a non-example as it says little about the  
> domainExpression.  In fact, it says less than the
>
> example at the end of 3.4.
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> Second, there is no reason for this example to be separated from  
> section 3.4.
>
>
>
> My note, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/ 
> 2006Jul/0019.html suggests domainExpression designs
>
> that allow a WSDL 1.1 definition, a http message or a JMS message  
> to be referred to as a policy subject.
>
>
>
> SUGGESTION 1: Remove section 4.2.  It serves no purpose.
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>
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> SUGGESTION 2: Add some discussion of domainExpressions using  
> examples from my note above.
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> All the best, Ashok
>
>
Received on Monday, 24 July 2006 03:13:52 GMT

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