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RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer

From: Yalcinalp, Umit <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:04:06 -0800
Message-ID: <2BA6015847F82645A9BB31C7F9D6416502FBAA8B@uspale20.pal.sap.corp>
To: "Felix Sasaki" <fsasaki@w3.org>, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Cc: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>, "Fabian Ritzmann" <Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM>, "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>

Example.com is widely used in w3c specs/docs already. Surely, the use of
it is not introducing a new constraint and/or problem for w3c. 

--umit
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Felix Sasaki
> Sent: Thursday, Dec 21, 2006 6:26 PM
> To: Paul Cotton
> Cc: David Orchard; Fabian Ritzmann; Christopher B Ferris; 
> public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd 
> in Primer
> 
> 
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt describes the 
> reserved domain
> name. I think this issue could be resolved by asking ICANN if they
> follow this RFC in their registration policy and if their 
> recommend that
> to local registries as well. If you agree with this approach, I could
> take an AI and bring the question to our ICANN liaison .
> 
> Felix
> 
> Paul Cotton wrote:
> > But Fabian's point is that someone could actually register 
> the company name "Example.com" with their local government 
> name registry.  Having that name reserved in DNS space does 
> not stop someone from using it in another space.
> > 
> > /paulc
> > 
> > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> > mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-
> >> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David Orchard
> >> Sent: December 21, 2006 2:36 PM
> >> To: Fabian Ritzmann; Christopher B Ferris
> >> Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> >> Subject: RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso 
> Ltd in Primer
> >>
> >>
> >> Example.com is explicitly reserved in DNS for examples 
> like this and
> >> cannot be registered.  That's why everybody uses it.  And 
> what a great
> >> idea and foresight that was on their part..
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
> >>> [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of 
> Fabian Ritzmann
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:05 AM
> >>> To: Christopher B Ferris
> >>> Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd
> >>> in Primer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> While example.com is a reserved domain name, isn't there
> >>> still a chance that somebody registers a company Example.com
> >>> and sues W3C for trademark infringement [1]?
> >>>
> >>> Contoso is a company name registered by Microsoft:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictitious_company_names_
> >>> used_by_Microsoft
> >>>
> >>> Ideally, the W3C would register a company name for similar
> >>> uses in all countries where they don't want to be sued for
> >>> trademark or similar infringements...
> >>>
> >>> Fabian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Christopher B Ferris wrote:
> >>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103
> >>>>
> >>>> Title: Questionable use of fictitious corp. name "Contoso Ltd."
> >>>>
> >>>> Description: The Primer uses a fictitious corporation 
> name, Contoso
> >>>> Ltd., throughout the Primer in its running example. It 
> isn't clear
> >>>> that use of such a fictitious name, without w3c 
> copyright/trademark
> >>>> ownership, is advisable.
> >>>> Should a company be incorporated with that name, then the
> >>> Policy 1.5
> >>>> primer would be in essence providing it with free advertising...
> >>>> Worse, the company might sue the W3C for copyright/trademark
> >>>> infringement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Justification: see description
> >>>>
> >>>> Proposed Resolution: Change all occurances of "Contoso" and/or
> >>>> "Contoso Ltd."
> >>>> to "Example.com" and change all "real.contoso.com" domain
> >>> references
> >>>> to "example.com".
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Christopher Ferris
> >>>> STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
> >>>> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> >>>> blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
> >>>> phone: +1 508 377 9295
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Fabian Ritzmann
> >>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> >>> Stella Business Park             Phone +358-9-525 562 96
> >>> Lars Sonckin kaari 12            Fax   +358-9-525 562 52
> >>> 02600 Espoo                      Email Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM
> >>> Finland
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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