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RE: RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:56:58 -0800
To: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>, Fabian Ritzmann <Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM>, Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
CC: "public-ws-policy@w3.org" <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
Message-ID: <4D66CCFC0B64BA4BBD79D55F6EBC22571FD4B78828@NA-EXMSG-C103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>

But Fabian's point is that someone could actually register the company name "Example.com" with their local government name registry.  Having that name reserved in DNS space does not stop someone from using it in another space.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David Orchard
> Sent: December 21, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: Fabian Ritzmann; Christopher B Ferris
> Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Subject: RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer
>
>
> Example.com is explicitly reserved in DNS for examples like this and
> cannot be registered.  That's why everybody uses it.  And what a great
> idea and foresight that was on their part..
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Fabian Ritzmann
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:05 AM
> > To: Christopher B Ferris
> > Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd
> > in Primer
> >
> >
> > While example.com is a reserved domain name, isn't there
> > still a chance that somebody registers a company Example.com
> > and sues W3C for trademark infringement [1]?
> >
> > Contoso is a company name registered by Microsoft:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictitious_company_names_
> > used_by_Microsoft
> >
> > Ideally, the W3C would register a company name for similar
> > uses in all countries where they don't want to be sued for
> > trademark or similar infringements...
> >
> > Fabian
> >
> >
> > Christopher B Ferris wrote:
> > > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103
> > >
> > > Title: Questionable use of fictitious corp. name "Contoso Ltd."
> > >
> > > Description: The Primer uses a fictitious corporation name, Contoso
> > > Ltd., throughout the Primer in its running example. It isn't clear
> > > that use of such a fictitious name, without w3c copyright/trademark
> > > ownership, is advisable.
> > > Should a company be incorporated with that name, then the
> > Policy 1.5
> > > primer would be in essence providing it with free advertising...
> > > Worse, the company might sue the W3C for copyright/trademark
> > > infringement.
> > >
> > > Justification: see description
> > >
> > > Proposed Resolution: Change all occurances of "Contoso" and/or
> > > "Contoso Ltd."
> > > to "Example.com" and change all "real.contoso.com" domain
> > references
> > > to "example.com".
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Christopher Ferris
> > > STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
> > > email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> > > blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
> > > phone: +1 508 377 9295
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fabian Ritzmann
> > Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> > Stella Business Park             Phone +358-9-525 562 96
> > Lars Sonckin kaari 12            Fax   +358-9-525 562 52
> > 02600 Espoo                      Email Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM
> > Finland
> >
> >
> >
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