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RE: simple case of IRIs for Components in WSDL 2.0

From: Arthur Ryman <ryman@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:51:17 -0400
To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Cc: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@isr.umd.edu>, "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>, Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>, public-ws-desc-comments@w3.org, public-ws-desc-comments-request@w3.org
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There are two cases we need to consider when forming URI references.

1. The URI deferences to a WSDL document whose media type is 
2. The URI is a WSDL namespace and we are forming identifiers for 

I'm not an XPointer lawyer, but in case 1 I don't see how we can change 
the meaning of the bare names. Doesn't that violate the XPointer spec? Is 
application/wsdl+xml allowed to redefine the meaning of XPointer for 

In case 2 we have more leeway because the URI reference is being used as a 
component identifier and the namespace is not being referenced. In this 
case would could define bare names to mean whatever we want. So we could 
define a bare name to identify the WSDL component with that local name, 
assuming it was unique.

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Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> 
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09/15/2005 04:24 PM

Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Arthur Ryman/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, Bijan Parsia <bparsia@isr.umd.edu>, "Henry 
S. Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>, public-ws-desc-comments@w3.org
RE: simple case of IRIs for Components in WSDL 2.0

On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 10:41 -0700, Jonathan Marsh wrote:
> Yes, Dan?s simple pointers point to XML elements rather than the
> description component,

No, I'm asking for a URI for the interface, not for an XML

In my original message, I wrote:

| ...
| Then we should be able to use
| http://www.w3.org/2005/08/sparql-protocol-query#SparqlQuery
| to refer to that interface.

I suppose I could have been more clear; I don't mean some
indirect reference mechanism; I mean: to identifiy
that interface, directly.

>  per the XPointer spec if we keep compatible with it for our media
> type (and we should!).

I'm asking that the barename #xyz in wsdl isn't short for
the element with id xyz, but rather then component named xyz,
provided there's exactly one such component.

Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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