W3C WS Choreography WG conference call
Agenda
17th May 2005, 3PM EST, 12AM PST, 19h UTC, 21h BST, 22h MET,
1. Role Call
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2. Confirm scribe
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3. Agenda Changes
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4. Approve minutes
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10th May
5. Action item review
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1. ACTION: Martin to do UML diagram from scratch for CDL
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
2. ACTION: SRT Check 1027 for issues pertaining to identity
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
3. ACTION: Add text in primer or spec to clarify participant relationship/role pertaining to issue 1027
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
4. ACTION: Chairs to talk with the XPath 2.0 WG to determine the direction of three-valued logic and existential qualifiers
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
5. ACTION: SRT to create a new issue about accessory pertaining to issue 1128. SRT to investigate
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
6. ACTION: chairs to respond to issue raiser for closed issues
STANDING ITEM - Martin will start to close issues this week.
Status: No change.
7. ACTION: Steve to learn about this issue from Nick for the Primer (issue 1079)
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
8. ACTION: Yves to define what is meant by correctness
IN PROGRESS
9. ACTION: SRT to close issue 1002 and take action to add 1002-addressing
IN PROGRESS
Steve will try to move on some of his actions by next meeting.
Status: No change.
10. ACTION: Charlton, Gary and Nick to discuss 1008 off line to resolve (leaving 1008 on the agenda)
IN PROGRESS
11. ACTION: Close 971 as Resolved, won't fix
IN PROGRESS.
Status: No change.
12. ACTION: Record 996 as resolved fixed with text in minutes (12 apr)
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
13. ACTION: Record 998 as resolved won't fix
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
14. ACTION: Record 1018 as resolved fixed
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
15. ACTION: Record 1055 as RESOLVED LATER so is editorial
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
16. ACTION: Record 1079 as CLOSE WON'T FIX
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
17. ACTION: SRT - Put in text related to access and modify in the primer.
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
18. ACTION: SRT - Insert 1028 text provided by GBrown into Issue 1128.
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
19. ACTION: MC - Close 1110 with the proposed resolution.
IN PROGRESS
Chapman: Want to come back to these in progress issues and actions.
Status: No change.
20. ACTION: Martin to record issue 1102 as resolved/later.
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
21. ACTION: Tony to add rns: to the namespace prefix table in the WS-Choreography specification.
IN PROGRESS
Status: IN PROGRESS
NEW ACTION (augments 21 above): Fletcher to complete approved approach for #21.
22. ACTION: Steve to close 1128 as resolved will not fix, but add text to the primer about
the use of lists and arrays in CDL.
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
23. ACTION: Steve and/or Martin to generate a list of the issue numbers that the editing team
should be working on as a spot check.
IN PROGRESS
Status: No change.
22. NEW ACTION: Chairs discuss and provide a recommendation.
23. NEW ACTION: Kavantzas provide example showing how WS-CDL binds to faults in WSDL1.1 and WSDL1.2 to show the benefit of his approach.
6. Proposals
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1008 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1008
Summary: FAULT HANDLING
URL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor-comments/2005Jan/0012.html
GB: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Feb/0035.html
REMAIN OPEN
Nick suggests looking at the example in the 2.5.2.3 Interaction Syntax section: The exchange "badPurchaseOrderAckException"
1001 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1001
Summary: CORRELATION OF CHANNEL INSTANCES
URL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor-comments/2005Jan/0006.html
PROPOSAL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005May/0016.html
1003 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1003
Summary: RELINGUISHING CONTROL OF PASSED OUTPUT CHANNELS
URL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor-comments/2005Jan/0007.html
PROPOSAL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005May/0005.html
ADDITIONAL URL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005May/0041.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005May/0042.html
7. Issues requiring clarification
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Summary of progress from last week:
Issues still to resolve:
1128 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1128
Summary: Accessing and modifying members of lists and arrays
URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-ws-cdl-10-20041217/
GB: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Mar/0013.html
PROPOSAL:
PROPOSAL TO CLOSE WON'T FIX and add text to primer
Basis:
To properly modify information (lists/arrays/xml documents) in concurrent threads requires a level of
isolation/synchronization, and CDL only provides a coarse mechanism for this - so would prefer to
leave these modifications for ***silentActions***, which can then implement any
necessary synchronization.
We should not really be adding further activities that make this a more turing complete language.
Thus silentActions can be used as a suitable silent mechanism for accessing and modifying lists and
arrays and therefore we do not need explicit support in WS-CDL to do this.
The primer should include an example of how this might be done using WS-CDL, silentActions and a
suitable end point language.
FROM Comment 2 attached to bugzilla issue
Other issues:
Why do we have so many places in which we declare relationships and roles?
e.g. "participate relationhip", "channel types"
9. AOB
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