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Fw: Removal of Source Endpoint (wsa:From) - Feedback

From: Katy Warr <katy_warr@uk.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:36:20 +0000
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Another potential usage for the [source] MAP that has been mentioned is 
for metrics collection:  The wsa:From could be used to maintain 
information as a request passes through a number of intermediary endpoints 
in its route to the final destination.  This could be acheived by 
augmenting the wsa:From MAP at each intermediary so that at each step the 
path taken so far was nested within it (in a reference parameter) - hence 
building a path history for the message.
Katy
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"Ganapathy, Arunkumar" <Arunkumar.Ganapathy@Gateway.com> 
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Removal of Source Endpoint (wsa:From) - Feedback






While reviewing the W3C Candidate Recommendation and the editor?s copy of 
WS-Addressing specification, I have come across an editor's note that is 
somewhat surprising to me.  It states that "The working group is 
considering removing the wsa:From element due to lack of use-cases and 
seeks feedback on this decision."  I wanted to provide some feedback in 
support of NOT removing the wsa:From. 
 
Even though there are many different use-cases that I could think of at 
this point, ?Partner Identification? in a B2B scenario is one such 
use-case that I would like to mention. In most B2B applications, 
identifying the sending partner is always a requirement in order to secure 
the business transaction between the involved partners. 
 
In a one-way conversation between B2B partners, the wsa:From could be used 
to identify the sending partner. Even in case of asynchronous 
request-response scenario, wsa:From is the only way to identify the 
sending partner since the wsa:ReplyTo and wsa:FaultTo information could 
not be used to identify the sending partner as the EPR of ReplyTo and 
FaultTo might point to a different partner?s address. 
 
Also most transport mechanisms carry the ?From? information in some form 
today and if WS-Addressing is providing transport-neutral mechanism to 
address web services, then it MUST support wsa:From. Otherwise, transport 
binding of EPR might fail if the underlying transport supports and 
mandates the ?From? information.
 
Thanks!
Arunkumar Ganapathy
Chief Engineer
Gateway Inc.
7565 Irvine Center Drive
Irvine CA 92618
Office: (949)471-7116
 
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