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Re: Why is [message id] required for requests but not for other messages?

From: David Hull <dmh@tibco.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:57:57 -0400
To: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Cc: tom@coastin.com, "Yalcinalp, Umit" <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>, public-ws-addressing@w3.org
Message-id: <42AF1AA5.1060308@tibco.com>
Jonathan Marsh wrote:

>If the draft minutes are accurate, some of us voted to make [message ID]
>mandatory, others to make it optional at all times, but the bulk of the
>WG voted to simply 86 issue lc86.  I don't know what more to
>productively say on the topic at this point.
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Yes, and that all happened pretty quickly toward the end of a long day. 
Understanding why the result came out the way it did seems like a
productive endeavor, particularly since we're still hammering out the
semantics of [message id] and the reasons for making it mandatory (but
only in that particular case) look to have some bearing on the semantics.

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-
>>addressing-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Tom Rutt
>>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:21 PM
>>To: Yalcinalp, Umit
>>Cc: David Hull; public-ws-addressing@w3.org
>>Subject: Re: Why is [message id] required for requests but not for
>>other messages?
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>>check my concern below umit's comment
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>>Yalcinalp, Umit wrote:
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org
>>>>[mailto:public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David Hull
>>>>Sent: Monday, Jun 13, 2005 3:07 PM
>>>>To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
>>>>Subject: Why is [message id] required for requests but not
>>>>for other messages?
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>>>>If [message id] is to be leveraged for uses other than correlation,
>>>>particularly duplicate elimination and security, wouldn't those
>>>>considerations apply at least equally well to non request/reply
>>>>interactions?  If not, what is the basis for requiring
>>>>[message id] for
>>>>requests but not for other types of message?
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>>>Well, if you recall from the f2f, we wanted to require message id
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>>>the board :-)
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>>but those semantics are not there in the present document, MesssageId
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>>only required when correlation of a reply is required.
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>>Tom Rutt
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>>>--umit
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>>Tom Rutt	email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com
>>Tel: +1 732 801 5744          Fax: +1 732 774 5133
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