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Re: wsa:FaultTo unusable for SOAP mustUnderstand faults

From: Hugo Haas <hugo@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:17:11 +0200
To: David Hull <dmh@tibco.com>
Cc: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
Message-ID: <20050609061710.GB4012@w3.org>
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* David Hull <dmh@tibco.com> [2005-06-08 20:26+0200]
> One of the outcomes of the Palo Alto meeting of the Async TF was Tony's
> Timeline.  On this timeline, there is a point at which the [fault
> endpoint] becomes "known", and faults can be sent there (actually, I
> think I'm oversimplifying somewhat here).  Before that, most bets are
> off.  For example, if I POST a request to an invalid URL, I'll get back
> a 4xx response before anything even has a chance to look at the [fault
> endpoint].  If I fire-and-forget a message to a bogus address, the
> transport layer may or may not be able to tell me I did this.
> The upshot is that we only know for sure that the [fault endpoint] MUST
> be used in the case where a well-formed and properly addressed message
> arrives and the receiver produces a fault based on this.  This would
> certainly include, say, sending a negative number to a "real square
> root" operation.  It might or might not include a complaint brought on
> by an invalid refparam or some other bad header.
> Your analysis shows that it /cannot /include errors with mustUnderstand
> headers, putting them in the same class as transport errors, malformed
> SOAP envelopes and such.  This may not be desirable, but it seems to be
> a consistent reading of what we have.

After several discussions over the past week, I'm OK with wsa:FaultTo
not applying to mustUnderstand faults, especially as I think that it
would be very hard to do so. However, we should make this clear in the
spec to avoid confusion and test it at CR.



Hugo Haas - W3C
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