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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 8 May 2019

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 22:45:14 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9Vy7k1Zv7nC59u54Gyb_WMCotfyixVCLkkEaJTDRUF98A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2019/05/08-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Taki!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                               WoT-IG/WG

08 May 2019

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda

Attendees

   Present
          Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura,
          Kunihiko_Toumura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_Koster,
          Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch,
          Taki_Kamiya, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
          Toru_Kawaguchi

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool, Matthias

   Scribe
          TK

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Agenda
         2. [5]Namespace discussion
         3. [6]Schedule
         4. [7]F2F
         5. [8]Workshop
         6. [9]Testing call
         7. [10]Draft transition request
         8. [11]AOB?
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     * [13]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

Agenda

   <McCool> agenda:
   [14]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#8_May_2019

     [14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#8_May_2019

   <scribe> Scribe: TK

   <kaz> scribnick: taki

   McCool is showing draft Agenda...

   <kaz>
   [15]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019May/
   0019.html (Member-only)

     [15] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019May/0019.html

   <kaz> kaz: draft transition request above

Namespace discussion

   McCool: had meeting with Ralph. agreed on version scheme.
   ... ns URI, we need to find new use of it.

   <kaz> [16]Ralph's additional clarification (Member-only)

     [16] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019May/0018.html

   Kaz: there are additional points for clarification.
   ... we need to use "wot-" for json schema and weblinking.

   McCool: what is in the spec now?
   ... we need to fix it. Can Kaz create an issue?

   Kaz: OK.

   Sebastian: who made this proposal?

   McCool: I think it came from Ralph.

   Kaz: We need to talk with Ralph when we want to use namespaces
   which require Director's approval

   McCool: New URLs make sense.

   Kaz: option B makes sense.

   Matthias: Alternative is "wot-hypermedia".

   <victor> +1

   Matthias: instead of web linking.

   Victor: "wot-" becomes directory?

   Matthias: usually directory is used instead of using pyphen.

   Victor: validation TTL and validation JSON, where should it go?

   Kaz: that discussion is different from URL discussion.

   Matthias: if we use directory structure in URL, are we allowed
   to store other files?
   ... subdirectory "wot" for example, can it store files?

   Kaz: we can talk with web master.

   McCool: option B allows for that.

   Lagally: Option B is better.

   McCool: Let's proceed with option B.

   Sebastian: option B is good because it aligns well what we have
   in TD spec already.
   ... web-linking becomes hypermedia.

   Victor: I will do this change.

   McCool: there is a minutes to that meeting.

Schedule

   McCool: TAG review feedback is not expected before May 8.
   ... We make resolution today for CR request.
   ... ...in order to maek May 16 CR publication.
   ... which allows June 20 PR and August 1 REC publication.
   ... We need to make request tomorrow.
   ... WoT Arch has candidate release.
   ... TD is still working on small changes.
   ... we make resolutions for both today.
   ... For TD, 10am-12pm Europe time, editors will meet for
   cleanup, and another WoT main call in the second half.
   ... on May 9th.

   Lagally: we have architecture call also before that call.

   McCool: Today's resolution will allow small changes on both
   architecture and TD docs.

   Lagally: Editors suggested to merge candidate branch into
   master.
   ... I can merge into master now if all agree.

   McCool: "CR-candidate-3" branch.
   ... Architecture TF spent a day to review the branch.
   ... Please review the master branch before the 10am-12pm call
   on May 9th.

   Sebastian: Please everyone to join the call.

   McCool: Can we make a preliminary resolution for CR request?
   ... Let's do a resolution.

   <McCool>
   [17]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3

   <McCool> based on the above candidate

   Sebastian: can we do TD first?

   McCool is typing a resolution for WoT Architecture...

   Kaz: It should be a proposal. "Proposal:"

   McCool is typing a proposal for resolution...

   <McCool> proposal: Accept the candidate for the WoT
   Architecture specification at
   [18]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3
   for CR transition with the understanding that an additional
   final resolution will be made on May 9 during the scheduled
   Architecture call where any final changes will be reviewed and
   approved.

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3

   McCool: Does anybody have suggestion for change?

   Matthias: Note that the link to "a rendered version" in this
   branch actually points to the rendered master branch

   McCool is typing a modified proposal...

   McCool: Tomorrow, we will make a resolution based on master.

   <kaz>
   [19]https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candid
   ate-3/index.html

     [19] https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candidate-3/index.html

   McCool is typing a resolution...

   RESOLUTION: Accept the candidate for the WoT Architecture
   specification at
   [20]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3
   (rendered version at
   [21]https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candid
   ate-3/index.html) for CR transition with the understanding that
   an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during the
   scheduled Architecture call where any final changes will be
   reviewed and approved.

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3
     [21] https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candidate-3/index.html

   McCool: done.
   ... Now TD.
   ... We can use the same form of resolution.

   <sebastian> [22]https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description

     [22] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description

   McCool is typing a proposal...

   Sebastian: conflicts were resolved and merged already.
   ... Please note that Thing no longer has name based on issues
   raised by I18N WG.

   <McCool> proposal: Accept the candidate for the WoT Thing
   Description specification at
   [23]https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description for CR
   transition with the understanding that an additional final
   resolution will be made on May 9 during a call immediately
   after the scheduled Architecture call.

     [23] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description

   McCool: IRI in JSON Schema, and namespace changes.

   Victor: Appendix for the transformation was also significantly
   extended.

   McCool: Please review during next 24 hours.

   Ege: My changes somehow were overridden.

   McCool: Please Ege, fix the problem.
   ... Victor, can you make namespace changes asap?

   Victor: there are three issues related to namspace.
   ... links will not take to anywhere currently.

   McCool: We can add a note, or we can leave it without a note.

   Kaz: which links do you mean?

   McCool: Namespace links. They are all broken.

   Kaz: because we have not installed resources.

   McCool: is it a problem to have non-dereferenceable link in CR?

   Kaz: redirection should be set.

   McCool: Kaz, please try to resolve this.

   Kaz: Please summarize the requirement.

   Victor: the table still is valid.

   Kaz: Please create the final requirement.
   ... based on the current issue.

   McCool: Can Victor summarize what need to be done?

   Kaz: we can continue the discussion offline to clarify the
   final requirements for namespace setting, redirection, content
   negotiation, etc.

   McCool: does anybody object to turn the resolutions into
   resolutions?

   <mkovatsc>
   [24]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/611

     [24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/611

   Matthias: Issue #611. I want to resolve this.
   ... I am not opposing the resolution.

   McCool: anybody else?

   McCool is translating proposals into proposals...

   McCool: There is a PlugFest call after this.

   Kaz: we need a clear resolution.

   RESOLUTION: Accept the candidate for the WoT Thing Description
   specification at
   [25]https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description for CR
   transition with the understanding that an additional final
   resolution will be made on May 9 during a call immediately
   after the scheduled Architecture call.

     [25] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description

   Lagally: Please let's defer workshop demo discussions to next
   week.

   Sebastian: PlugFest can be discussed next week.

   McCool: can sebastian mark issues with tag "by CR transition" ?
   ... and assign to people?

   McCool assigned #611 to Matthias and Sebastian...

   McCool is assigning #652 to Victor...

   Matthias: this still needs discussion because it is about
   alternative namespaces.
   ... This issue is not critical.

F2F

   <kaz> [26]f2f wiki

     [26] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-7_June_2019,_Munich,_Germany

   Ege: Reserving a room for weekend, I need to check if it is
   allowed or not.
   ... Is there any volunteer companies to host the catering for
   F2F?

   McCool: Let's discuss next week.

Workshop

   Lagally: Workshop committee is reviewing the submissions.
   ... today, we will send invitations.

   Sebastian: with agenda.

Testing call

   McCool: we focus on testing in the testing call after this
   call.

Draft transition request

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention kaz will mention the draft
   transition request during the Arch/TD calls tomorrow

AOB?

   Ege: PR 653 was merged.

   McCool: Let's talk in testing call.

   <McCool>
   [27]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/653

     [27] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/653

   <kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [28]Accept the candidate for the WoT Architecture
       specification at
       https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3
       (rendered version at
       https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candid
       ate-3/index.html) for CR transition with the understanding
       that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9
       during the scheduled Architecture call where any final
       changes will be reviewed and approved.
    2. [29]Accept the candidate for the WoT Thing Description
       specification at
       https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description for CR
       transition with the understanding that an additional final
       resolution will be made on May 9 during a call immediately
       after the scheduled Architecture call.

   [End of minutes]
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