- From: Nils Dagsson Moskopp <nils@dieweltistgarnichtso.net>
- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 19:53:08 +0200
- To: Darin Adler <darin@apple.com>
- Cc: "avi@chromium.org" <avi@chromium.org>, Arvind Nigam <arvind.nigam@gmail.com>, "Michael A. Peters" <mpeters@domblogger.net>, WHAT Working Group <whatwg@lists.whatwg.org>, Majid Valipour <majidvp@chromium.org>, Yay295 <yay295@gmail.com>, Domenic Denicola <d@domenic.me>
Darin Adler <darin@apple.com> writes: >> On Apr 15, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp <nils@dieweltistgarnichtso.net> wrote: >> >> Clearly distinguishing between browser chrome and the current document >> interface-wise can be helpful here. While it is incredibly easy to fool >> people in general, browsers that automagically hide the address bar also >> hide information about the state of the browser program. The browser >> still has a state, but it forces the user to remember or deduce it. > > Which browsers automagically hide the address bar? Old versions of Android scrolled the address bar with the content and I found posts that said that “window.scrollTo(0, 1);” could hide the bar. > >> I think a good thing would be to keep browser applications' interfaces >> stable and not change things for the sake of change with every upgrade. > > I believe we are talking about changes that are needed to improve clarity and security. > > This is a straw man. I can’t think of any browser that changes things > “for the sake of change with every upgrade”. I cannot think of one as well, but desktop environments often change things around without changing actual functionality much – making it harder for users to use the software. For example, GNOME removed the traditional menubar in favor of a “miscellanous” menu bar, then changed its icon from a gear into a “hamburger” icon (≡). And OS X 10.7 (Lion) introduced a leather texture for iCal that as far as I know makes no functional difference and removed it again in OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). > > — Darin -- Nils Dagsson Moskopp // erlehmann <http://dieweltistgarnichtso.net>
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