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[whatwg] Proposal for a web application descriptor

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 08:19:02 +0200
Message-ID: <op.vu1qh0y2wxe0ny@widsith.local>
On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:41:24 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius  
<svartman95 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/5/11, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals at opera.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 May 2011 00:12:06 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
>> <svartman95 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/3/11, Cameron Heavon-Jones <cmhjones at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> There are a number of resources which are thought of having an
>>>> 'application' scope which may make sense to be collated into a
>>>> single manifest and with the ability for an agent to manage it as
>>>> such.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, if a single entity edits and signs multiple resources, it's
>>> unreasonable to trust one but not another.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, I disagree. I might trust a given entity
>> sometimes, or with some kinds of information, without wanting to simply
>> say "sure whatever you want". That's probably for the "hard-to-use mode"
>> in the UI, but I think it's legitimate. In practice, even given  
>> something
>> as simple as twitter's geolocation request I *sometimes* allow it to  
>> know
>> where I am and sometimes don't.
>>
> In that case you wouldn't grant anyone a carte blanche access to your
> location, but authorize or forbid each request. I meant that users
> probably wouldn't want to permanently authorize http://twitter.com/A
> but not http://twitter.com/.
>
> Of course, if the site requests coordinates, it's up to the user
> whether they come from /dev/gps or /dev/tty (or /n/3D Globe).

Yeah, in principle. But given that most users aren't going to symlink  
/dev/gps via their hand-crafted code to decide what to say (largely  
because browsers just ask Google where you are instead based on visible  
Wifi) in practice the question is how to build reasonable UI that the  
users actually understand.

cheers

Chaals

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