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[whatwg] article/section/details naming/definition problems

From: Gordon P. Hemsley <gphemsley@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:31:35 -0400
Message-ID: <fda8f3c50909160831r2f55dd8ao820751ce29f4fc36@mail.gmail.com>
I'd sent this earlier, but it got caught in the message queue that
apparently nobody checks. Let's see if it works this time.

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From: Gordon P. Hemsley <gphemsley@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [whatwg] article/section/details naming/definition problems
To: whatwg List <whatwg at whatwg.org>


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Jeremy Keith wrote:
> > In that blog post, I point out that <section> and <article> were once
> more
> > divergent but have converged over time (since the @cite and @pubdate
> > attributes were dropped from <article>).
> >
> > I've also seen a lot of confusion from authors wondering when to use
> <section>
> > and when to use <article>. Bruce wrote an article on HTML5 doctor
> recently to
> > address this:
> > http://html5doctor.com/the-section-element/
> >
> > Probably the best tutorial I've seen on this issue is from Ted:
> > http://edward.oconnor.cx/2009/09/using-the-html5-sectioning-elements
> >
> > ...but even so, the confusion remains. The very fact that tutorials are
> > required for what should be intuitive structural elements is worrying ? I
> > don't see the same issues around <nav>, <header> or <footer> (now that
> the
> > content model has been changed) ...although there is continuing confusion
> > around <aside>.
>
> I'd like to rename <article>, if someone can come up with a better word
> that means "blog post, blog comment, forum post, or widget". I do think
> there is an important difference between a subpart of a page that is
> a potential candidate for syndication, and a subsection of a page that
> only makes sense with the rest of the page.
>

What about <item>? (Directly, it's a coincidence that RSS happens to have
the same-named element, as I just used a thesaurus. But perhaps [indirectly]
there's a reason RSS uses <item> to begin with. And, after all, it's
supposed to be used as a hint that it could be syndicated content, right?)

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Gordon P. Hemsley
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-- 
Gordon P. Hemsley
me at gphemsley.org
http://gphemsley.org/ ? http://gphemsley.org/blog/
http://sasha.sourceforge.net/ ? http://www.yoursasha.com/
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