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[whatwg] [wf2] 2.3. Changes to existing controls

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:52:23 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510252050370.6813@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Anne van Kesteren wrote:

> Quoting Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch>:
> > > # so that if the value content attribute is not specified then
> > > # the value DOM attribute (and the value used for submission
> > > # when the controls are checked) is "on".
> > > 
> > > Could you perhaps add that setting the value content attribute to 
> > > the empty string must not be considered differently from setting the 
> > > value content attribute?
> > > 
> > > Note that in order to do that you would also have to change section 
> > > 2.4 which states that setting value to the empty string means "no 
> > > value selected". That would result in the value used for submission 
> > > being "on" which is not what user agents currently do, or are 
> > > supposed to do. value="" should not result in the value DOM 
> > > attribute being "on", but "".
> > 
> > Your two requests here seem to contradict each other. Could you 
> > clarify?
> 
> They do? How? You have to add that note because that is what UAs do and 
> after that you have to change section 2.4 so that the note does not make 
> your specification contradicting.

I don't understand any of the above. Could you explain it again? I really 
don't know what you are trying to say.


> > > # Whitespace must also not be trimmed from any other attributes
> > > # (e.g. the value attribute).
> > > 
> > > Could you add a note that there is some form of normalization applied to
> > > these attributes in XML documents as described here:
> > > <http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#AVNormalize>. This could be helpful and
> > > would prevent confusion.
> > 
> > That XML rule only applies to validating parsers and to parsers exposed to
> > internal subsets, IIRC.
> 
> Let me quote:
> 
> # Before the value of an attribute is passed to the application
> # or checked for validity, the XML processor MUST normalize the
> # attribute value by applying the algorithm below
> 
> (Also, internal subsets are required to be supported by XML parsers.)

I don't see how this contradicts what I wrote.

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