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Re: Next telco webrtc

From: Cullen Jennings (fluffy) <fluffy@cisco.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:56:27 +0000
To: Stefan Hakansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>
CC: "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D6B8ED72-941E-45D1-96CA-CACE75672211@cisco.com>

I'm not going to object to this any further than this one email but I think this is the wrong decision. 

When you compare the two leading dates

one of them is missing one of the chair (but we do have two chairs for more or less that reason)

the other date is missing 3 out of the 4 editors of the draft as well as the other key contributors 

I think that is the wrong tradeoff. I will note that the minutes produced from our meetings are totally useless so it it's not like people can read them and figure out what the conclusion of meeting were. 

I respect that the chairs have to sometime choose between two bad choices and there is always someone that things they made the wrong choice.  We have had far too many meetings where no useful conclusions were reached - I don't want this to be another one of those. 

I do have a very concrete suggestion to reduce this problem in the future - please please please, do not send out polls for a time that have more than 6 choices on them. When you send out something with 20 choices on them, people can not possibly block out all the 20 on their calendar so they don't end up reserving all the spaces that could work - instead they just peanut butter spread across them in a random way and we don't really find out what works. We have seen this over and over again in these types of polls, less choices (but good and reasonable choices) result in more people being able to attend the leading day not less. 

On the topic of making the meeting actually result in useful conclusions, I strongly encourage the chairs to limit the topics such that enough time can be spend on the topics we do address to reach meaningful conclusions.

Thanks for the rant, I feel better now
Cullen




On Sep 7, 2012, at 2:41 AM, Stefan Hakansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> the next telco will take place on
> 
> *Sept 17th, 10pm - 11:30pm CEST*
> 
> Please make a note in your calendar
> 
> Stefan for the chairs
> 
> P.S. If you check the Doodle poll result you will notice that the time picked was not the one with maximum availability. This is due to that we wanted both chairs to be able to attend, and also not push the meeting too far into the future
> 
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