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Re: Webplatform dead?

From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:46:45 +0300
Message-ID: <CABc02_J3M_mtmVJKumgxMigJQFxGGqBa_mtOzReE528afz2Dcg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>
Cc: "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
While it is not dead, some vendors (or a single vendor?) are instructing
their members to prefer
<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/2_hw97dJ0NQJ>
 other
<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/fhNVU0s8DCQJ>
documentation venues.
To me, this is really sad.

Perhaps you can do something about it?


☆*PhistucK*

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> wrote:

> These kinds of projects also don't just get a jump start then take off and
> keep going. Initial interest happens, all the people who are just
> interested head out, then you are left with a far smaller group of core
> contributors. Then over time that core group even changes as life happens
> and new shiny things come along. (Try to recall the often provided
> bell-curve of tech adoption, then make the curve narrower and far more
> dramatic. Then toss a few more curves in over time.)
>
> Documentation projects in particular have one major flaw, people don't
> feel it is worth their time to contribute. They are paid to do write code
> that functions and move on to the next thing. So taking time out to
> contribute to a document is hardly on their mind. WPD is in a very
> slow-pace area and we want contributors that really care about the quality
> of their work. That quality comes at the cost of things moving even slower.
>
> Things aren't dead, they are just stagnant. As WPD offers wider community
> engagement then hopefully we can collect a few more core contributors that
> will make things not seem so slow. I'd much rather have a handful of core
> contributors that do true quality work then an army of low-quality
> contributions that makes things seem more active. The content provided is
> far more useful in the end that way.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Austin has been a really prolific contributor (thanks!), and we also
>> have Nishanth Babu adding beginner DOM tutorials, among many other
>> contributors and content.
>>
>> We've actually concentrated quite a lot on infrastructure over the last
>> few months; Renoir has done a great job.
>>
>> We're even adding over some new functionality, like specs.webplatform.org
>> that hosts more experimental specifications, and adding a technical
>> discussion area where developers and designers can ask questions about spec
>> development. Our emphasis is on closing the gap between standards
>> development and developers.
>>
>> Regards–
>> –Doug
>>
>> On 4/10/15 6:31 PM, Austin William Wright wrote:
>>
>>> Slow maybe, not dead. Over the last month I've touched almost all the
>>> HTML element pages, merging duplicates, adding examples, correcting
>>> normative references, and importing data.
>>>
>>> I also noticed a great TLS/HTTPS upgrade, and MediaWiki upgrade, iirc.
>>> So even the server is getting love, it's not just me.
>>>
>>> Austin Wright.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ric Johnson <ric@opendomain.org
>>> <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Is the WebPlatform project dead?  I have not seen any progress in
>>>     quite a while.
>>>
>>>     I thought this was an amazing chance to help new developers learn
>>>     web technologies, but it seems that we have dropped the ball.
>>>
>>>     Is there anyone interested in kicking this project back on gear?
>>>
>>>     Ric Johnson
>>>     OpenDomain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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