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Re: To temporarily disable annotations sidebar

From: Ann-Katrin B <ann-katrins_blogg@hotmail.de>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:23:05 +0200
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CC: Jen Simmons <jen@jensimmons.com>, Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org>, List WebPlatform public <public-webplatform@w3.org>
To: Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
I do agree though, until it can be done it does make sense to disable - if it doesn’t work well, it shouldn’t be there. 

Ann-KAtrin 

On 24 jun 2014, at 23:57, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com> wrote:

> Renoir, Jen,
> 
> Concatenating and minimizing the Javascript and CSS help deal with the issues of HTTP requests and slow loading times.
> 
> If you need help with how to do it, let me know. 
> 
> Carlos
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 5:13, Jen Simmons <jen@jensimmons.com> wrote:
> 
>> More metrics — a CSS property page  takes 7.66 seconds to load, making 137 http requests. 
>> That's really really bad. 
>> 
>> We should be well under a 2 second load time, ideally under 1 second. 
>> 
>> Jen Simmons
>> designer, consultant and speaker
>> host of The Web Ahead
>> jensimmons.com
>> 5by5.tv/webahead
>> twitter: jensimmons
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Jen Simmons <jen@jensimmons.com> wrote:
>> I think this is a good idea. The annotations sidebar does slow the site down tremendously, bringing the page load to 57 javascript files and 8 CSS files.  YSlow gives the site a 'D'. 
>> 
>> Study after study shows that web pages that load slowly loose users. I do think the UX of the current Annotations is confusing — with a separate login, and a mysterious line / sidebar-thingy down the right side of the page. Web Platform needs all the help it can get to take off. Having slow loading pages that feel janky and have this confusing sidebar login thing doesn't help.
>> 
>> Why don't we temporarily disable the Annotations system, and bring it back when 1) the performance is fast, and 2) the UX is solved. And then meanwhile focus on getting the compatibility table system done. 
>> 
>> Jen
>> 
>> Jen Simmons
>> designer, consultant and speaker
>> host of The Web Ahead
>> jensimmons.com
>> 5by5.tv/webahead
>> twitter: jensimmons
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve been thinking to disable temporarily the annotation sidebar and I’d
>> like your opinion about it.
>> 
>> The day before the Beyond Tellerand DocSprint, I spent more than hour
>> with somebody on IRC because he couldn’t login to edit pages. Its only
>> after some time that I realized that he was using the annotation sidebar
>> as the only way to register to our site. He’s most likely not the only
>> one who got caught with it.
>> 
>> Maybe its better to remove confusion factors and enable it only when we
>> have the Accounts-system/SSO enabled. Something that’s coming soon anyway.
>> 
>> Besides that, it also impacts the site load time. In fact, the sidebar
>> loader calls a bunch of files like a web application development
>> environment would —not a production one, which our deployment is. Their
>> development stack (Python) actually has the piping to minify their
>> assets, its just not configured yet.
>> 
>> 
>> My proposal:
>> 
>> - Disable the automatic annotator sidebar loader
>> - Keep the notes.webplatform.org
>> - Upgrade the annotator as soon as its available, that includes:
>>   - SSO integration (they’re almost there)
>>   - Sidebar loader performance (in progress)
>> 
>> The time frame is about a week or so.
>> 
>> Opinions
>> 
>> --
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Renoir Boulanger  |  Developer operations engineer
>> W3C  |  Web Platform Project
>> 
>> http://w3.org/people/#renoirbhttps://renoirboulanger.com/  ✪  @renoirb
>> ~
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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