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Re: Placing Tutorials (was Re: VTT authoring guide on Web Platform Docs?)

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:10:52 +1100
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2mafr5QFm2+SBq+7ja1zRgmZyqgtFDRiw8+Xv2vQsgqCQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
Cc: Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, "public-texttracks@w3.org" <public-texttracks@w3.org>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Hi Carlos,

I gave you feedback on the other thread - has that been incorporated?

Thanks,
Silvia.



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>wrote:

> I think I'm good with the tutorial.  It could use one more round of
> feedback before moving it to the WPD site.
>
> That bring another question, what is the best place for the VTT tutorial
> within the WPD doc web site? I haven't made up my mind if it falls under
> HTML, Accessibility or general web concepts.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Carlos
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I added the links as notes to the supported browsers table.  Can you
>> think of a better placement for the links?
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi Carlos,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks good, though here's a bit more:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Under IE, you've got documentation on the HTML5 Rocks site. While a good
>>> site, Microsoft has a lot of Text Track docs, with a number of examples.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is our technology start page:
>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg123962.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's where all the API docs are. The text track API is mixed in with
>>> the audio/video/media elements.
>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ie/hh772500.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There's a set of text track samples here, including one that uses meta
>>> data to create a slide show. MSDN locks us out of actually having the demo
>>> online, so it might be a good candidate to put on WebPlatform.
>>>
>>> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lastly, though a little dated, there's a demo on ietestdrive.com that
>>> has an editor that will create WebVTT files (as well as TTML files). I've
>>> been meaning to get around to an update, but things have been busy.
>>>
>>> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/CaptionMaker/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    IE HTML5 Timed Text Track sample in JavaScript, HTML for Visual
>>> Studio 2010
>>>  The examples shown here use the HTML5 track element, and show you how
>>> to add video with captioning and other features to your webpages.
>>>  Read more...<http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:59 AM
>>> *To:* Richard Eyre
>>> *Cc:* Silvia Pfeiffer; David Singer; public-webplatform@w3.org;
>>> public-texttracks@w3.org; Doug Schepers
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: VTT authoring guide on Web Platform Docs?
>>>
>>>   Richard,
>>>
>>>  Thank you for the feedback.
>>>
>>>  I've updated the information regarding Firefox Nightly and added
>>>  vtt.js to the lists of players and polyfills.
>>>
>>>
>>> What bug should I track for Cue formatting issues?
>>>
>>>
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if this got through to the list so if it did, apologies. I
>>>> don't mean to spam the list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks good at a quick pass Carlos. Two things:
>>>>
>>>> * Firefox Nightly is enabled by default now. A patch landed a few days
>>>> ago for that.
>>>> * Underneath the polyfill section you can list
>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/vtt.js. It's a JavaScript implementation of
>>>> the WebVTT spec (not the track spec). In the future it might evolve into a
>>>> full <track> polyfill.
>>>>
>>>>  Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I took a first stab at writing the VTT tutorial. It's currently hosted
>>>>> in Github to make it easier for people to contribute examples and edits to
>>>>> the page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/caraya/vtt-demos/blob/master/video_captioning.md
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take a look at it and let me know what you think needs to be
>>>>> changed and what other things I should add.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <
>>>>> silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great to hear your interest!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would indeed encourage to write about implemented reality, even
>>>>>> though that will probably continue to improve over the next few
>>>>>> months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could explain the features as specified and then explain what
>>>>>> works in the browsers now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could, in fact, contribute to the testing efforts of the <track>
>>>>>> element in HTML, see http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Silvia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > I'd be interested in looking at working on something like this.
>>>>>> However the first question that comes to mind is whether we write to the
>>>>>> way the specification is written or to the way it is supported. As far as I
>>>>>> know there is no complete implementation of the VTT spec available,is there?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Carlos
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:43 PM, David Singer <singer@apple.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> it would be really cool to have an authoring guide for VTT (unlike
>>>>>> the specification, which is essentially an implementation guide) on
>>>>>> WebPlatformDocs.  There are some possible starting points, below, though of
>>>>>> course to use any of this material wed need to work with the authors and
>>>>>> get permission.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Is there someone who would like to pull this together and
>>>>>> spearhead getting a good authoring guide on this important site?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-webvtt-and-track/
>>>>>> >>> http://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/10/12/html5-video-captioning.aspx
>>>>>> >>> http://www.delphiki.com/webvtt/
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> http://demosthenes.info/blog/580/Make-Online-Video-Accessible-And-Searchable-With-WebVTT
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> http://www.accessiq.org/news/features/2013/03/webvtt-and-captioning-on-the-web
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> David Singer
>>>>>> >> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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