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Re: 404 page (was Re: URL aliases for WPD without /wiki)

From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:09:12 +0300
Message-ID: <CABc02_Kt5miBv=szUJ98k1MHm2qhrYkq0SmGuMWGs0T2EWG0EA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Lea Verou <lea@w3.org>
Cc: Julee <julee@adobe.com>, Sébastien Desbenoit <seb@desbenoit.net>, Doug May <intuedge@gmail.com>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Denis Ah-Kang <denis@w3.org>, Ryan Lane <rlane32@gmail.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
(Not Phil :()

I know the bad fallback is sitewide, I was not saying yours was
specifically flawed.
I just thought I would mention this since we are talking about including
more SVGs. The numbers should also have some kind of a fallback.


☆*PhistucK*


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
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> There is a minor difference in the angle because I made it square, not
> almost square like the current one. Easier measurements too.
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> The “bad fallback” of 404.html is actually the fallback for the entire
> site, it comes from the wiki stylesheet.
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> Cheers,
> Lea
>
>  Lea Verou
> W3C developer relations
> http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
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> On Mar 29, 2013, at 10:57, PhistucK wrote:
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> Great work on the logo SVG! There are minor differences (the angle or
> something), but I do not think they matter.
>
> By the way, make sure you have a fallback PNG for non modern desktop and
> mobile browsers (that goes for every SVG on the site for now)...
>
> The logo of 404.html uses a bad fallback -
> background: #f9f7f3 url(skins/webplatform/images/logo.png);
> background: hsl(40,29%,96%) url(skins/webplatform/images/logo.svg);
> It is not good enough for Android 2.3, I believe, because Android earlier
> than 3 does not support SVG, but does support the HSL color format.
> We should think of other ways.
> Or drop official support for Android 2.3, if we support mobile at all.
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>
> ☆*PhistucK*
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> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org> wrote:
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>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Here’s a prototype of the 404 page [1]. Like I said previously, I think
>> the error should be added in some hidden page in the wiki (the errors/
>> directory is temporary), for easier maintenance (and to get a proper search
>> box too, with all the autocomplete stuff). Since nobody replied to my
>> question about which errors do we need, I made all 10 digits in the WPD
>> logo style, which you can play with here [2] to see how the various error
>> combinations look. The SVGs would be soo much simpler if WebKit didn’t have
>> the infamous bug with referencing external SVG files :(
>> There are 2 alternate versions of the 4, so that the 404 error doesn’t
>> look too monotonous. I should do the same for any other error codes that
>> use the same digit twice.
>> If you like them, perhaps we could also use the numbers elsewhere too,
>> e.g. the wiki pages describing the error codes? They’re pretty flexible.
>>
>> Since I was at it, I also made a cleaner SVG for the logo, you can
>> compare the two here [3] [4]. My changes shaved off about 80% of its file
>> size, and made it easier to animate it, if we ever wish to and it was
>> pretty easy to make after working on the digits.
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>> Thoughts?
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>> Cheers,
>> Lea
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>> [1]: http://www.webplatform.org/errors/404.html
>> [2]: http://www.webplatform.org/errors/images/numbers.html
>> [3]: http://www.webplatform.org/errors/images/logo.svg
>> [4]: http://www.webplatform.org/errors/images/logo-2.svg
>>
>> Lea Verou
>> W3C developer relations
>> http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
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>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 08:13, Julee wrote:
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>> Nice, Sébastien. J
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>> ----------------------------
>> julee@adobe.com
>> @adobejulee
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>> From: Sébastien Desbenoit <seb@desbenoit.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:51 PM
>> To: Doug May <intuedge@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, julee <julee@adobe.com>, Lea Verou <
>> lea@w3.org>, Denis Ah-Kang <denis@w3.org>, Ryan Lane <rlane32@gmail.com>,
>> "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: 404 page (was Re: URL aliases for WPD without /wiki)
>>
>> Super Lea!
>>
>> The page looks great, but I have trouble to read the four. If we add some
>> length to the segment, would this work?
>> I tried to visualize my idea:  http://i.imgur.com/RN6rors.png
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>>
>> Seb
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>>   --
>> Sébastien Desbenoit
>>   - http://
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>>                http://internetetmoi.fr
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>> Le 27 mars 2013 à 04:34, Doug May <intuedge@gmail.com> a écrit :
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>> +1 to shepazu and those before.  great thread, and kickass upgrades.
>>
>> Without hijacking the thread, I want to add that if I knew how to flow
>> this toward our promotable highlights, I would do so.
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>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
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>> Hi, Lea-
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>> I like the first one, too.
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>> A couple of suggestions:
>> * remove the emoticon, it makes the message muddled
>> * add a link to the search term that is in the URL (or maybe add a search
>> box)
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>> Regards-
>> -Doug
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>> On 3/26/13 5:17 PM, Julee wrote:
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>> Ha! Great! I like the first one. J
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>> julee@adobe.com
>> @adobejulee
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lea Verou <lea@w3.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:15 PM
>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com>
>> Cc: Denis Ah-Kang <denis@w3.org>, Ryan Lane <rlane32@gmail.com>, Doug
>> Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, "public-webplatform@w3.org"
>> <public-webplatform@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: 404 page (was Re: URL aliases for WPD without /wiki)
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>> How does something like this look?
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>> http://i1.minus.com/iGfRmjKm0ge9P.png
>> http://i3.minus.com/ibu6imWYDGMUXO.png
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>> Cheers,
>> Lea
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