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Re: External Sources of Copy

From: Julee <julee@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:04:06 -0700
To: Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CE0D6E16.876BB%julee@adobe.com>
Thanks, Janet! I didn't realize about the summary not taking that tag.
That's probably a bug.

Sarah: I would rewrite if the content is CC-BY-SA, wherever possible.

Regards.

Julee


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From:  Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>
Date:  Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:49 AM
To:  "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Subject:  Re: External Sources of Copy

    
 
The WPD guidelines require that CC-BY-SA content (including from MDN) that
is mixed in with other content needs to be wrapped in  <div
class='license-cc-by-sa'> to make it clear which content is covered by that
license.
 
 The person who copied the MDN content into this article *did* check the
CC-BY-SA checkbox for the article and give attribution, which is good, but
they neglected to wrap that content in a div. In this case, it looks like
the Summary and Notes sections came from MDN. One of the code examples also
came from MDN, but that code is public domain, so no special handling is
needed.
 
 I added the div to the Notes section, but the Summary field doesn't appear
to accept that kind of HTML markup. Adding it to the Summary field causes
the rendered page to display a message that the article does not have a
summary. 
 
 I added a mention of MDN to the paragraph in the guidelines about mixing in
CC-BY-SA content, just to make it explicit.
 
 --Janet
 
 
 On 7/18/13 10:37 AM, Sarah Forst wrote:
 
 
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> Ah okay, I missed that page when reading the instructions, checking quickly,
> it looks like it does follow those guidelines, but I will double check and
> rewrite the content where it makes sense.
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> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Michael Champion (MS OPEN TECH)
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>>  Microsoft contributed a substantial amount of text to Web Platform Docs on
>> the understanding that the attribution would at the page level.
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>> You can take content word for word from the text that Microsoft and other
>> contributors explicitly offered to WPD. (Harvesting new material from MSDN,
>> MSN, HTML5 Rocks, etc. is another discussion)  The whole point of WPD is to
>> have a community mash up content from multiple sources, keep it up to date,
>> and add value with code samples, implementation reports, etc.  That will
>> inevitably change the original content to the point where it would be
>> burdensome on the community to track where each nugget of information came
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>> Michael Champion
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>> From: Sarah Forst <sarah.plowright@gmail.com>
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:19 AM
>>  To: public-webplatform@w3.org
>>  Subject: External Sources of Copy
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>> Hi -  
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>> Apologies for all of the questions, but I had some concerns about content
>> reuse on the page I'm editing:
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/clear which I signed up for
>> last web platform wednesday but discovered someone else had already filled
>> out the content.
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>> A large portion of the content from:
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/clear, and I think some of
>> the other content is from Microsoft.
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>> It's my understanding that since web platform is associated with the w3c,
>> reusing content from there is okay, but it seems somewhat dubious to me to
>> take content word for word from mozilla and microsoft. There is an
>> attribution at the bottom:
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>> "This article contains content originally from external sources.
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>> Portions of this content come from the Mozilla Developer Network
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/> : Article
>> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/clear>
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>> Portions of this content come from the Microsoft Developer Network: Windows
>> Internet Explorer API reference Article
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh828809%28v=vs.85%29.aspx> "
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>> But to me, attributions like that should only be used for quoted sections,
>> not the majority of a documents copy. What is the policy on this for web
>> platform?
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Janet Swisher <mailto:jREMOVEswisher@mozilla.com>
 
Mozilla Developer Network <https://developer.mozilla.org>
 
Developer Engagement Community Organizer
 
 
 
Received on Thursday, 18 July 2013 17:04:51 UTC

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