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Re: Recommendation for where to post Pointer Events primer

From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:00:05 +0200
Message-ID: <CABc02_KoaBV8bJ--AuOdnBTUUPAZ3O1cUeBOvcw4=ahB8ydEzg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Cc: "Rob Dolin (MS OPEN TECH)" <robdolin@microsoft.com>, Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, "Doug Schepers (schepers@w3.org)" <schepers@w3.org>, Jacob Rossi <Jacob.Rossi@microsoft.com>
I would generally be in favor, but on the other hand, there are no non
prefixed implementations, not even nightly builds. Even though this is on a
standards track, it has not reached an initial milestone with more than one
implementation yet. WebKit does not seem to be in favor of this method, for
example.
I guess Mozilla is in favor, because one of the editors is one from Mozilla?

☆*PhistucK*


On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>wrote:

> [ + Jacob Rossi ]
>
> Hi All - the Pointer Events v1 spec will be published as Last Call Working
> Draft on February 19 (<http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/**
> WD-pointerevents-20130219/<http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-pointerevents-20130219/>
> >).
>
> Given this, it seems like WPD should document the events in the LC spec
> rather than their ms* equivalents e.g. see <http://docs.webplatform.org/**
> wiki/dom/events <http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/events>>. WDYT?
>
> -Thanks, AB
>
>
> On 2/17/13 1:26 PM, ext PhistucK wrote:
>
>> I would change the link in this paragraph -
>> "In all of these cases, a pointercancel event is triggered. This gives
>> the developer a chance to handle any clean-up that is needed. More
>> information on pointercancel cases can be found at:
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-**us/library/ie/hh846776(v=vs.**85).aspx<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh846776(v=vs.85).aspx><
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-**us/library/ie/hh846776%28v=vs.**85%29.aspx<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh846776%28v=vs.85%29.aspx>
>> >"
>>
>> To this one -
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/**wiki/dom/events/**mspointercancel<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/dom/events/mspointercancel>
>>
>> It should contain the same information anyway. If this is not sufficient,
>> please, enhance the information of the Web Platform Docs version to match
>> the content to which you really tried to link.
>>
>> ☆*PhistucK*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Rob Dolin (MS OPEN TECH) <
>> robdolin@microsoft.com <mailto:robdolin@microsoft.com**>> wrote:
>>
>>     Thanks very much Chris. :)
>>
>>     I appreciate your advice and have started publishing as a
>>     "concept" at: http://docs.webplatform.org/**
>> wiki/concepts/PointerEvents<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/concepts/PointerEvents>
>> .
>>
>>     'All the best--
>>     --Rob
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: Chris Mills [mailto:cmills@w3.org <mailto:cmills@w3.org>]
>>     Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 <tel:2013> 2:34 AM
>>     To: Rob Dolin (MS OPEN TECH)
>>     Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.**org<public-webplatform@w3.org>
>> >;
>>     Doug Schepers (schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>)
>>     Subject: Re: Recommendation for where to post Pointer Events primer
>>
>>     Hi Rob! Welcome to the list ;-)
>>
>>     >From your outline, it looks like it's gonna be a kind of extended
>>     concept example, rather than a tutorial (unless of course, you're
>>     gonna get the reader to build the code themselves step by step, in
>>     which case it would be a tutorial.)
>>
>>     So I would create it a concept - we decided a little while ago
>>     that there was no point having concepts AND guides, as they do
>>     basically the same thing. And we liked concepts better.
>>
>>     Create it as something like "pointer events fundamentals" or
>>     "pointer events explained" using the concepts form field.
>>
>>     Eventually, we should create an "API learning material" topic at
>>     http://docs.webplatform.org/**wiki/apis<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/apis>,
>> and link to your pointer
>>     events concept article from there.
>>
>>     Hope this helps.
>>
>>     Chris Mills
>>     Opera Software, dev.opera.com <http://dev.opera.com>
>>
>>     W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org
>>     <http://webplatform.org> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and
>>     Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
>>
>>     On 14 Feb 2013 <tel:2013>, at 23:41, "Rob Dolin (MS OPEN TECH)"
>>
>>     <robdolin@microsoft.com <mailto:robdolin@microsoft.com**>> wrote:
>>
>>     > Hi all,
>>     > My name is Rob Dolin and this is my first post to the list. I've
>>     been drafting a "Primer" doc for Pointer Events [1] and Doug
>>     (CC'd) suggested I pose this question to the mailing list:
>>     >
>>     > I was looking at the New Page Form [2] and I'm wondering if I
>>     > should post the Pointer Events Primer as a "Guide" or as a
>>     "Tutorial."
>>     > (Below is an outline of the content I'm in the process of writing.)
>>     >
>>     > Thanks very much-
>>     > --Rob
>>     >
>>     > [1] http://www.w3.org/2012/**pointerevents/<http://www.w3.org/2012/pointerevents/>
>>     > [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/**wiki/WPD:New_Page<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:New_Page>
>>     >
>>     > Pointer Events Primer (Outline)
>>     > 1 Goals
>>     > 2 Why Pointer Events
>>     > 2.1 Unified model for Multiple input types
>>     > 2.2 Ability to Identify Different Input Types
>>     > 2.3 Additional Methods and Attributes
>>     > 3 Basic Pointer Events
>>     > 3.1 Down and Up (with example)
>>     > 3.2 Move (with example)
>>     > 3.3 Over and Out (with example)
>>     > 3.4 Enter and Leave (with example)
>>     > 3.5 Cancel
>>     > 3.6 Comparison of Mouse Events and Pointer Events
>>     > 4 Pointer Event Attributes
>>     > 4.1 PointerType
>>     > 4.2 PointerId
>>     > 4.3 IsPrimary
>>     > 4.4 Contact Geometry Width and Heigh
>>     > 4.5 Pressur
>>     > 4.6 Pen TiltX and TiltY
>>     > 5 Multiple Pointers At Once / Multi-Touch (with example)
>>     > 6 Detecting Which Button(s) Are Pressed
>>     > 7 Try Pointer Events Today with Early Implementations
>>     > 7.1 WebKit with Pointer Events Patch
>>     > 7.2 Internet Explorer 10
>>     > 8 Further Reading
>>     > 9 Appendix A: Designing for Touch
>>     > 10 Appendix B: Pointer Capture
>>     > 10.1 Slider Control Example
>>     > 10.2 SetPointerCapture method and GotPointerCapture event
>>     > 10.3 ReleasePointerCapture method and LostPointerCapture event
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Rob Dolin
>>     > Senior Program Manager and Technical Diplomat Microsoft Open
>>     > Technologies, Inc.
>>     > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>     >
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